I just find channels or playlists I'm interested in, copy-paste the urls into my TubeArchivist and let it handle getting them for me.
YouTube’s ‘dislike’ barely works according to new study on recommendations
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#122The trick to improving YouTube recommendations is to regularly prune uninteresting videos and channels. Eventually this should start surfacing videos you're more likely to find interesting. I've actually hit the end of my recommendation stream on the mobile app after marking dozens of videos with Not Interested. Once this happens it starts recommending videos you've already watched or older videos from creators you'v…
Mine will not give up on family guy.
Hundreds of dis likes. Don’t recommend.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
The biggest problem with this approach is that it takes a lot of curation to get your recommendation in a decent shape and it takes you one accidental video view to have your feed be full of uninteresting content related to that video. This asymmetry is the root of all the recommendation system problems.
Remove the unwanted video from your history and it will no longer affect your recommendations.
The article is claiming that that doesn't actually do very much.
Re: YouTube’s ‘dislike’ barely works according to new study on recommendations
#124The trick to improving YouTube recommendations is to regularly prune uninteresting videos and channels. Eventually this should start surfacing videos you're more likely to find interesting. I've actually hit the end of my recommendation stream on the mobile app after marking dozens of videos with Not Interested. Once this happens it starts recommending videos you've already watched or older videos from creators you'v…
I'm regularly recommended videos from Richard Wolff that I've downvoted and flagged as not-interested. It's so annoying that I've often thought about making an entirely new account but the amount of work to re-subscribe to all the channels isn't worth it. I really wonder why YouTube recommends you things repeatedly that you dislike and switch away from. Something is broken in the algorithm or it's doing as intended. Either way, it's a frustrating user experience.
Re: YouTube’s ‘dislike’ barely works according to new study on recommendations
#125What a lot of people are missing is that when watching YouTube, they're the product, not the consumer. I know this has been said many times before, but ignoring this reality is like trying to understand life without considering evolution, or understanding chemistry while ignoring the periodic table. Google's incentives are to tailor customers to advertisers , not customers to content! They don't care if you see what…
How does that at all relate to YouTube videos though?
YouTube wants you to see ads. Ads are put in front of YouTube videos. Therefore youtube wants you to watch videos. YouTube, logically, should want you to watch more videos, for longer. If they serve you bad videos, you stop.
Therefore, Googles incentives are to tailor good recommendations of content for customers.
QED.
I think all this “you’re not the customer you’re the product” signaling - which is true to an extent- needs an additional corollary of “products aren’t free to acquire or produce” or “businesses can’t exhaust their supply of products to sell”.
Because if YouTube truly doesn’t care about serving you relevant videos -as you conjecture-, why not recommend the same 100 videos to everyone? It’s make caching way cheaper.
Re: YouTube’s ‘dislike’ barely works according to new study on recommendations
#126Honestly, I feel like YouTube recommendation is the _only_ good thing YouTube has lol. I often see a ton of complaints about the recommendations but I've honestly never had an issue. I know that yes, you click on one video and now all the sudden you get 100s of that type... but it sorta works for me since it seems like that "effect" wears off just as fast as it starts. For example, I have a friend that's into cars. I…
There is some incentive to want you to watch car videos in that situation, as someone with a recent automotive interest is an ideal person to show car ads to.
Re: YouTube’s ‘dislike’ barely works according to new study on recommendations
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
The biggest problem with this approach is that it takes a lot of curation to get your recommendation in a decent shape and it takes you one accidental video view to have your feed be full of uninteresting content related to that video. This asymmetry is the root of all the recommendation system problems.
Remove the unwanted video from your history and it will no longer affect your recommendations.
YT has hidden tags that tie it to your account after viewing a video, removing the video from played/history does not affect this and has been an issue with YT for nearly 6-7 years at this point.
Re: YouTube’s ‘dislike’ barely works according to new study on recommendations
#128I run https://fiction.live which has a similar recommendations function as youtube.
The key insight here is that dislikes are not the same thing as uninterested. People will dislike stories that they're interested in but think are poorly written or do not have the ending that they want it to have. If you use dislike to mean uninterested you are ruining the recommendations.
Rather you need to have a separate button that says do not recommend other content like this. That's what we do and it works out well.
Re: YouTube’s ‘dislike’ barely works according to new study on recommendations
#129Why is everybody pretending the recommendation system is designed to show you what you want to see, rather than to maximise ad revenue?
Why is everyone pretending that the maximal amount of ad revenue comes doesn’t come from showing you what you want to see?
Individual videos don’t pay to be in the recommended feed. There’s no opportunity to see an ad except when you watch a video. YouTube has a perfectly balanced incentive to show you more content you’ll watch.
Where is the exclusive choice between (what the user wants to watch) and (what makes more money)? The only thing I can imagine is that they would down-rank videos not cached in your region.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remove the unwanted video from your history and it will no longer affect your recommendations.
The article is claiming that that doesn't actually do very much.
It works for me and other people I know. Especially useful when I'm baited or my finger slips. Paired with flagging recommendations as "Not interested" or "Don't recommend channel" it's very effective.