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Re: Cloudflare Warp

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Post by legutierr »

joshmanders wrote: post #76
noncoml wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. A bit less catchy than “Don’t be evil” but it’s the same. Cloudflare is what Google was 20 years ago. The cycle can only break by decentralized protocols.

> The cycle can only break by decentralized protocols. I disagree. The cycle can break by breaking up the monopolies so that one company doesn't control everything, and allow free market to expand. Competition keeps people from being evil. Evil only happens when there's no reason for them to NOT do evil things. Google was fine until they became the top dog and nobody could even compete.

Decentralized protocols are the competition you are looking for.

The only alternative is regulatory intervention, which is unlikely to happen, however much you may want it to happen.

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Post by datalopers »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #90
datalopers wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same reason as they offer free TLS termination. Someone is paying for all of that unencrypted and/or de-anonymized traffic across an increasingly large portion of all internet activity.

Any source for that disparaging claim?

PRISM and FISA/FAA. 15 years ago every telecom and internet company was providing backdoor access to communications. What makes you think that somehow that has changed? US laws sure haven't and the technology has only improved.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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Post by TechBro8615 »

datalopers wrote: post #123
TechBro8615 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any source for that disparaging claim?

PRISM and FISA/FAA. 15 years ago every telecom and internet company was providing backdoor access to communications. What makes you think that somehow that has changed? US laws sure haven't and the technology has only improved.

I don’t think it’s changed, but the claim was that people (“someone”) are paying Cloudflare for access to these logs.

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Post by ctrlaltesc »

rkeene2 wrote: post #93
RussianCow wrote: post #23

We use Cloudflare Warp at work. Honestly—and I say this as a Cloudflare fan in general—it doesn’t work well for me. I regularly have connection issues with it enabled. Video calls sometimes cut out for a couple seconds, and Tuple (which I use a lot) really struggles with it. It’s possible it’s my internet connection or something unrelated, but I don’t have any of these issues when Warp is disabled. YMMV and all that,…

I have the same sorts of issues on Android -- I frequently have to kill the 1.1.1.1 app because it no longer passes traffic, but it seems to work fine on other Linux systems that are not Android.

Alas not. We use it on our Linux machines with include mode and it's painful. Common domains fail to resolve at all, and can't even SSH to IP addresses on the local network. Every update seems to fix one edge case and add two more. At this point I'd rather just have a VPN and spend the buzzword budget on something else.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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Post by joshenders »

sejje wrote: post #29

> Your Internet service provider can see every site and app you use—even if they’re encrypted. Some providers even sell this data, or use it to target you with ads. > We believe privacy is a right. We won't sell your data, ever. "We, the people who make up this company now, but not in the future, PROMISE." I notice they didn't say "we don't keep the data." According to the comments, this is just wireguard. I deployed…

Is your web host also deployed within 40ms of every eyeball on earth?

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Post by [deleted] »

avg_dev wrote: post #55
sejje wrote: post #29

> Your Internet service provider can see every site and app you use—even if they’re encrypted. Some providers even sell this data, or use it to target you with ads. > We believe privacy is a right. We won't sell your data, ever. "We, the people who make up this company now, but not in the future, PROMISE." I notice they didn't say "we don't keep the data." According to the comments, this is just wireguard. I deployed…

I’m confused by the first claim. Is it really true? I thought TLS prevented anyone from inspecting my traffic. Am I completely off base?

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