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Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus

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Post by insightcheck »

phpisthebest wrote: post #106
insightcheck wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main advantage that Slack has, especially for many people in non-technical roles, is the just-professional-enough user interface over the casual look of Discord. I've been in Discord servers for volunteer work, and while it generally works pretty great, the system feels a lot more casual to users (e.g. with non-human profile pictures). On the other end of the spectrum, Microsoft Teams is almost too professional,…

> Microsoft Teams is almost too professional Teams target is Corporations so it should be professional? Microsoft has tries to make Teams "less professional" or more causal and people hate the changes. They recently changed the theme of the emoticons "Microsoft Fluent Emojis were brought to life to embrace expressiveness and play" they seem to be well received by non-professional users, or even professionals in "crea…

Microsoft is in a tough place in that respect, because its user base is so broad by design (as a default program in Windows 11 now). It can never be fully optimized for professionals in formal environments, nor professionals who prefer more casual environments.

This Pirates of Silicon Valley scene comes to mind [0]. Teams may not be the most optimized software for formal versus informal users, but that doesn't matter because it's trying to have a broad appeal.

https://youtu.be/UFcb-XF1RPQ?t=131

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Post by Teckla »

agluszak wrote: post #47
northisup wrote: post #36

http://discord.com

No, discord is not a good alternative. We just have to wait until they pull the rug from under their free users in order to aggressively monetize. And I think that will hurt much more than Slack.

I like, and use, Discord daily, and like it a lot.

But I have to agree: Eventually, management will start to more aggressively monetize it (i.e., "pull the rug from under their free users").

Truly free (e.g., IRC) alternatives seem like the only long-term solution, otherwise people will keep stumbling from one commercial platform to another, because they never last.

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Post by systemvoltage »

nerdponx wrote: post #90
systemvoltage wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I much prefer the rusty old phpBB UI over Discourse. It was clunky but usually it is an indicator of high quality community that's been run for many years and a bunch of gray beards hanging out having a good time. UI was just fine. PhpBB is still alive and kicking: https://www.phpbb.com/

I do miss the old forums, but Discourse is pretty nice with Markdown formatting and its tagging system. Much better full-text search than the old-style forums too.

Hasn't been a problem for millions of people using PhpBB. Those things are nice but Discourse UI is disorienting for me. Threads don't feel like grouping of posts, they feel like search results. I like pagination and "staticness" of PhpBB, not a giant scrolling doomswheel that changes under you. The sticky header ensures that those pixels have private property rights and never ever move out of the way. I don't want to give up 80 vertical pixels for a Discourse logo.

Honestly, I am getting old or new UI's don't jive with me. I like borders and boxes. Old clunky things had clarity.

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Post by chrisan »

sergiotapia wrote: post #31

Please stop using Slack/Discord for forum replacements. Forums can be indexed and found. Slack/Discord is like pissing in the wind. Here today, gone three hours from now.

> Please stop using Slack/Discord for forum replacements

I always thought it was replacing irc and other previous chat platforms (google chat, hipchat, skype, icq, etc)?

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Post by manquer »

Teckla wrote: post #100
userbinator wrote: post #29

IRC has always been free and you can search as much as you've logged... One thing that a lot of people seem to have difficulty understanding is just how little space text takes up; someone typing at 120wpm continuously for 28h has only generated a little over 1MB of text. No doubt Slack is taking advantage of that lack of understanding to make people think the costs are greater.

IRC has always been free and you can search as much as you've logged... The biggest problem with IRC has always been its lack of server-side history.

To me it is a feature not a limitation

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Post by joe-collins »

nerdponx wrote: post #91
chx wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The wiki situation is really not helped by how wikia turned into fandom turned into a garbage fire. I am not even sure whether there are any active, thriving wikis on fandom any more. Maybe Wookieepedia but there are noises of moving that away, too. What they have done to that site can not be borne.

The Dota 2 wiki is pretty much the canonical "technical reference" for the game.

There are a few games, mostly high-profile ones, with exceptional wikis or fan sites, but they are exceptions.
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