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EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Post by Gigachad »

lloeki wrote: post #42
moistoreos wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

/remindme in 10 years In all seriousness, YES! File sizes are not getting smaller. If the bottleneck of data transference were my hardware, then we would live in a data utopia. Imagine the size of files for the last 20 years and you could probably do a relatively close comparison for the next 20. I would say they have future-proofed their system for a long while. I would also say that with the addition of IoT, there…

> Imagine the size of files for the last 20 years and you could probably do a relatively close comparison for the next 20. Is it? A some point usefulness plateaus. I mean taking the streaming example, we can easily stream several 4K HDR streams within a 1G pipe, and 4K is basically retina-class unless you plan to project in a cinema, so anything above is virtually useless (just like the move to 24bit/192kHz is for li…

Not sure if we are going to see this in the future, but I'd love to see video streaming / content production move to 60fps. You're right that beyond 4k doesn't really give you anything but the improvement 24fps to 60 is absolutely massive.

Would also be nice to see video call apps upgrade from the absolute worst qualities to something nicer.

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Post by bobthepanda »

KerrAvon wrote: post #61
8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me tell you the story of CA attempting to build high speed rail..

“real estate is expensive and NIMBYs don’t want it”… the end. (Also the story of why Hyperloop is pointless. technology isn’t the problem that needs solving! Fast rapid transit tech has existed since the 1980’s and it’s not the cost issue.)

That, and don‘t let the fox in the henhouse (namely, if you decide that contracting to consultants is a good idea, you do need in-house staff to make sure they‘re just not perpetuating an endless gravy train, and other consultants are not a substitute for this)

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Post by tbyehl »

tyingq wrote: post #87
r00fus wrote: post #9

Wow this reads like an announcement from a different timeline (like the one that was promised when fiber was promoted in the early 2000s). 25Gb/s symmetric? In the middle of Tennessee? Meanwhile I have traffic-shaped Comcast and no fiber in sight in Silicon Valley.

It is cool, but I imagine it's expensive. Tried their site with a random address, and 10Gig is $300/month...their 1Gig is $68/month. 25Gb isn't yet listed.

Reported elsewhere as $1,500/m residential and $12,500/m commercial. I think they're not aiming for much residential uptake...

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Post by inferiorhuman »

azinman2 wrote: post #114
inferiorhuman wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

10GBaseT is the wrong solution, period. As you've found out it runs hot (somehow I doubt all the fanless consumer trinkets are going to last very long). Not that Ubiquiti is a good example – even with their 1G kit they had issues with thermal management. Both the ER-X and ER-L ran hot enough to cook themselves (especially the early ones with the tiny SD cards). True to form my ER-Xs get flakey when it gets slightly w…

> Sonic's offerings are really geared towards web browsing more than anything. What do you mean by that? I fully saturate my 1G link for work all the time.

No static IP on fiber connections (like they promised initially), no native IPv6 (although maybe there is on the DSL products), outbound SMTP blocked. For a while there was a tool you could use to adjust your DSL profile to skew it towards upstream bandwidth, but that's since been dropped. No more m-bone access. Stuff like that.

Sonic's shifted from offering a full featured internet connection to a slightly neutered dumb web browsing pipe.

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Post by noizejoy »

ejb999 wrote: post #12

I don't really see the point - impressed that they offered it, but how many people truly need it? I have 1G symmetric FTTH internet, the bottleneck is still the services I want to access at the other end - really makes no difference how much faster the pipe is, if the service you are using can't keep up. Will some people benefit?? sure - a handful of power users doing massive uploads and downloads for commercial purp…

I’d love to have 25 Gbps for residential - even if just for offsite backups.

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Post by midnitewarrior »

yborg wrote: post #71
midnitewarrior wrote: post #21

Why? I work a tech job and I 50gb connection is more than I need, it's more than most need.

Cool, so you can downgrade to a 25gb connection like EPB and save some money.

Whoops 50mb not gb!

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Post by gregors »

I live in another TN city rolling out municipal fiber. I live in a middle class area of town. I've been asking for 1G for years, but ATT keeps telling me "there's not enough need in that area of town". That changes as soon you move to the higher-end neighborhoods though. I guess people who live in the expensive zip codes are the only ones who need 1G. EPB will offer internet to ALL residents, not just the rich of the cities.

Since the city has started the fiber rollout, all of a sudden it's now feasible for ATT to offer fiber. Go municipal internet!!!!!!

https://www.kub.org/about/about-kub/kub-service-areas/centur...

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Post by coder543 »

tbyehl wrote: post #123
tyingq wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is cool, but I imagine it's expensive. Tried their site with a random address, and 10Gig is $300/month...their 1Gig is $68/month. 25Gb isn't yet listed.

Reported elsewhere as $1,500/m residential and $12,500/m commercial. I think they're not aiming for much residential uptake...

Source? I've been looking for the price just out of curiosity.

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Post by aetherspawn »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #111
aetherspawn wrote: post #90

Considering that 10G fiber gear is not very expensive at all (ie 28 port fiber switch - $1000) I’ve wondered what the hold-up is on 10Gbps SFP+ becoming a standard. In Australia we’re shamefully paying $1150 per month for our business symmetrical 10G SFP+ (shaped to 1/1G), but a 1G 1000/40 connection is only $100/mo.

You still have to get transceivers for both ends of each and every connection which drives up the cost per port pretty dramatically. Edit: Scantly driving up the cost per port. Say what? You've just added $1,500 (28 ports * 2 per port * $27) to the cost of a 28 port switch… at the low end. Now I've no experience with fiber, but anecdotally I've come across a few complaints that the Ubiquiti stuff is picky about the t…

You're right. Definitely wouldn't consider the direct attach cables though for anything longer than 1m. Any serious deployment you'd want to be full optics.
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