Oven: The Company Behind Bun

Post by ignoramous » Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 5:40 AM UTC

aaroninsf wrote: post #112

hardwaregeek wrote: post #50

I have a lot of respect for Jarred and bun. The lean approach of just one person working for a year is rather underrated imo. No funding and therefore no pressure for growth. No overhead from scaling up a team and having to implement process, standards, etc. And at the same time, incredible content marketing by just tweeting about every little detail. Me and many others got hooked just because Jarred was posting inte…

He should have rested up and taken a week off to get some perspective before attempting to write recruiting spam on Twitter. Sounding twitchy and strung out and high strung and histrionic? A filter for sure, but not for the things he thinks he wants. This is how you get broken, desperate, unhealthy people, and that is reflected permanently in culture, and almost always in product, with poor prognosis for success. Ser…

tbf, some people are just that ambitious and driven. See also: Elite athletes like Djokovic, Nadal, Phelps, Bolt et al

Post by _vvhw » Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 3:02 PM UTC

AaronFriel wrote: post #117

_vvhw wrote: post #110

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Thanks, that's a great insight! Does it follow that the fact that temporal violations could be used to violate runtime spatial checks, therefore means that spatial safety in itself is entirely without value? What are your thoughts also on buffer underflows ? I ask since I take it you also work on offensive security.

Alas, I don't work in offensive security but it's been a hobby of mine as an engineer to keep up to date. Some day, perhaps. To be precise, I don't think the mitigations Zig has, which the author labels as "spatial safety", are entirely without value. Optionals & sum types, range checks are helpful. Buffer underflows as in writing to negative indices? I wish I could go in a time machine and default early languages to…

Yes, agreed with you as to buffer underflows. Here, I really like that Zig has checked arithmetic enabled by default in safe builds. It's a small decision (to many) but so important. It surprises me that Rust does not do this for safe builds. A panic is stronger (and safer) than only wrapping or (implicit) saturating arithmetic.

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