How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week? • Hacker News Board

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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Post by kaba0 » Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 6:27 AM UTC

NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #40

The scariest thing about biased news sources is not how they cover something but whether they cover something at all . People who don't tune into multiple will simply have no idea that something even happened. They'll have completely different realities based on their perceptions. Just looking at the graph you can see four whole stories that CNN completely omitted, yet there was nothing that CNN covered that Fox igno…

According to this [ https://adfontesmedia.com/download-the-media-bias-chart/ ] CNN’s website and Fox’s parent company is similarly factual, with a slight bias to their respective side.

Their TV channels on the other hand are more biased, but CNN is still more factual.

I’m sure some people will not like this, but there also seems to be a correlation between right bias and loss of factuality (and I remember reading a study that show similar things as well).

Nonetheless, it’s best to watch less biased, factual reportings.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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Post by kaba0 » Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 6:30 AM UTC

NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #111

Volundr wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they are arguing that's it's not a story this week. The first pig->human heart transplant took place earlier this year. Is Fox ignoring it because they haven't covered it this week? Or is it not news because there are no new developments?

No, they're literally arguing it isn't a story, right in this same thread: >It should be noted that the four stories that CNN didn't cover aren't actually real stories, but are bordering on conspiracy theories. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32514411

That’s one commenter. Others have chimed in countering false claims in one side. That doesn’t mean they automatically support the other side..

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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Post by jollybean » Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 8:01 AM UTC

BeetleB wrote: post #116

jollybean wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Above Board definitely correlates with quality, because it implies truthiness, which is obviously a key consideration. CNN is a broadcast news channel that covers things as they happen, not a newspaper where they write articles as long as they like. So you'd compare it to MSNBC and Fox and possibly Network News, not news papers.

> Above Board definitely correlates with quality, because it implies truthiness, which is obviously a key consideration. It is one of many factors. You can have a news source that is 100% accurate and virtually useless. > CNN is a broadcast news channel that covers things as they happen, not a newspaper where they write articles as long as they like. > So you'd compare it to MSNBC and Fox and possibly Network News, n…

Yeah I think you're stretching it here.

Yes, technically, 'very accurate' may not be good news, but that's not all CNN is. They are 'above bar' and a decent news org.

Yes, just 'breaking news' can be inaccurate, but that's not just what they are.

They're Cable News, and again, relatively decent.

Even though they are biased, if you had to pick 'just one' - I think they'd be a fair source.

I share your view on 'deep news' - but most people don't have time to go in depth.

CNN is not great but won't lead you too-too far off, most of the time.

Either MSNBC or Fox ... creates some unfortunate bubble thinking.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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Post by secondcoming » Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 11:14 AM UTC

mywittyname wrote: post #36

secondcoming wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no. Is that really why you think people use quotes, or are you trolling? I hope you are.

Quoting entire sentences is fine. But anymore, news is quoting literally single words without any citations. /u/secondcoming asks, "are you trolling? I hope you are." Vs. User "trolls" forum. Posters respond to "quotes" with "oh no." Seriously, about 80% of FN headlines contain one or two word mini-quotes.

Right, but it's not "air quotes". Those have an element of sarcasm.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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Post by egberts1 » Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 11:51 AM UTC

blowski wrote: post #119

egberts1 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouGov is an opt-in opinion taker. Furthermore, opt-in is not a conservative trait hence its inherent bias in favor of those who participate actively to the YouGov data farm.

What data are you relying on instead?

What YouGov About is describing about their collection methods.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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Post by blowski » Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 12:07 PM UTC

egberts1 wrote: post #125

blowski wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What data are you relying on instead?

What YouGov About is describing about their collection methods.

Well in the absence of other data, I'll rely on YouGov more than you for viewing figures, thanks.