Live data from Hacker News

HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

hp.com

121–130 of 170 posts

Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

#122

My HP LaserJet 6P is still running strong, almost 20 years after I bought it second-hand and almost 25 since it was released (!). I've been using nothing but unofficial toner in it and other than some streaking that developed in the last few years (too lazy to clean the toner for now), it's been flawless. Apparently HP made things so well for so long that they've decided to correct that mistake. No subscription requi…

I just held a somber funeral for my 1999 HP LaserJet 4000n. No app, no subscription, reasonably priced toner, built like a tank, survived thousands and thousands of pages, five house moves. It was finally done in by multiple critical plastic pieces that broke and a power supply failure. I don't know what I'm going to do with my life now. I feel there are no new substitutes anymore. I heard Brother is good but I can't…

lol wow we had hp 4000n printers in my high school in the late 90s and they were amazing.

Glad to see they lasted so long for you. Not surprised.

I wish I could buy them today.

Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

#124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Requires the HP Smart app download. To be able to scan your documents to your phone directly. > Subscription may be required; subscription may not be available in all countries For some advanced, Prizmo-like scan features and OCR which are probably cloud based. > Get up to 5,000 pages or up to 2 years of pre-filled toner Considering printers at same size provides ~3000 pages, that's good. 2 years is probably printi…

I have an HP deskjet f4210 and it doesn't work with windows 11 at all. Gave my wife a new laptop with windows 11 and there are exactly 0 drives anywhere to be found for it. Can't even re-use windows 10 drivers. However, they will run you through about 5 different tools and HP accounts and personal information gathering while trying to "find" drivers for it. Sure, I get it, super old printer, but it works just fine fo…

How do they keep Windows 10 drivers from working? I've never heard of any Windows 10-compatible devices that don't work in 11.

Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just held a somber funeral for my 1999 HP LaserJet 4000n. No app, no subscription, reasonably priced toner, built like a tank, survived thousands and thousands of pages, five house moves. It was finally done in by multiple critical plastic pieces that broke and a power supply failure. I don't know what I'm going to do with my life now. I feel there are no new substitutes anymore. I heard Brother is good but I can't…

Wonder if there is a 3d printing community to support older but reliable devices.

I ran an HP laserjet 5si into the ground years ago and kept it alive by picking up dead ones for parts here and there.

Thing was an absolute beast of a beast.

Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

#126

Okay wanted to post "hahahahahahahahahahaha!" but that doesn't add much to the discussion. The HP printer product managers really seemed to believe "because HP" was a license to rip off people who bought their printers. I knew they were in trouble when I was forced to replace my completely functional HP inkjet because they refused to provide drivers for Windows 10. Did the research and found an Epson Ecotank printer[…

I purchased an EcoTank ET-2760 at Costco last year. When it prints, it prints pretty good and it seems like we get good economy from the ink. BUT we go through these cycles of printing a lot then nothing for weeks. So after one of the "rest" periods, we usually have to run the cleaning routine multiple times to get a decent print.

That and my wife failed to grok how the colors were keyed to the different reservoirs and ended up spilling a lot of cyan ink trying to force it.

Maybe you dodged a bullet.

Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

#128
Putting aside the HP bad discussions, they've had a tank laser printer on the market for a few years now. A few of them, actually. I know because I had to sell this crap. It used a special "plunger" toner refill kit where you set it in the hole and push down. It wasn't that great of a printer, expensive, and a potential mess.

Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

#129
post #6

> NOTE: The printer only works with original HP toner refill kits. If original HP toner is not installed in the printer, the printer will not work as expected. Still vendor locked. Rather just stick with something you can refill yourself.

I wonder how they could tell though - Maybe the refill bottles themselves have electrical contacts and that's how they serialize the refills? Once it's been dumped into the printer, they burn an efuse on the refill so it's now useless to anybody? Seems like more waste than anything.

I can't speak for this printer, but I have an HP Neverstop 1001NW which uses a similar tank-based system. The container of toner that came with it appeared to be entirely dumb.

Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last 3 HP LaserJets we've bought at work have had to go back because they require an HP account to print. You can't use port 9100 unless you've got an account, it just sits at an error state. No matter what we did you couldn't sign in, their cloud service seems to be down all the time and support wouldn't help.

Strange. mine has an option called "Remove embedded web services", and it transforms to a dumb printer. Then you can re-enable it if you prefer later.

Embedded Web Services / EWS is their name for their web configuration interface. I don't think it has anything to do with GP's concerns.

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_2029438-1929621-16

Post reply on HN