Looking at the release notes ( https://cloud.google.com/iot/docs/release-notes ) it seems like you could see it coming as there was no new features since 2019. This doesn't help GCP credibility compared to other cloud providers, AWS still supports legacy EC2-Classic from the early 2010s for god sake.
Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
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Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think its a vicious cycle - No one supports it so services don't implement it, and because no services implement it people use hacky ways to do what MQTTv5 does out of the box or use services they normally wouldn't because the ones they want only support MQTT 3.1.1. We use NATS for pretty much all of our MQ / Service Bus type stuff, we were using GCP Iot, AWS IoT and recently moved to EMQX as it has native MQTTv5 s…
Would your company be willing to fund the development? Or would you be willing to post a PR? We would be happy to take a look.
Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
#123Google should just go ahead and shut down their entire Cloud business. I mean, nobody in their right mind would build a business or anything substantial on top of any Google provided service, and the hobbyist market can't be that big. Just go ahead and drop out Google, and quit fucking wasting everybody's time.
Google has a long history of experimenting with a product and then shutting down once they've learned enough. Maybe they learn it's not as lucrative, maybe they learn how to build the tech, maybe they learn they're too late, whatever. But it's experimental and the experiment doesn't prove to be the "next billion users" so it wanes and then dies.
Not every product is like that. Cloud isn't just some product on a spreadsheet next to IoT Core. The heavy players like Cloud, YouTube, Ads, etc, have massive investment, have dedicated CEOs, and are in it for the long haul.
Google's deprecation policy sucks, but it doesn't apply to every product uniformly.
Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
#1243 years ago Google killed off Android Things[1] and told everyone to migrate to IoT Core. Now IoT Core is dead. But don't worry about all that, just connect with your Google Cloud account manager! They'll tell you exactly which Google platform you should migrate to next. [1]: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2019/02/an-update-...
Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
#125The scale at which Google managed to fuck up their cloud business says a lot about their DNA.
I was so excited about AlloyDB, but the documentation is crap. After two days of setting things up and dealing with their complex network configuration I gave up. Why would they make it so complex for a new dev to try their shiny new DB? Do cloud googlers seriously not think about new user experience?
Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
#1263 years ago Google killed off Android Things[1] and told everyone to migrate to IoT Core. Now IoT Core is dead. But don't worry about all that, just connect with your Google Cloud account manager! They'll tell you exactly which Google platform you should migrate to next. [1]: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2019/02/an-update-...
Yeah IoT definitely seems to be following Google's messaging strategy - if the platform isn't a runaway success, delete it and start again. Maybe people will love the new platform!
Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
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Yes. They already angered the game dev community, and few believe Stadia will stay around. This angers the industrial internet-of-things community. You can get Siemens industrial equipment tied to Google IoT Core. Hopefully you don't already have it installed. Industrial controls people think in terms of decades, not months. A Coursera class on Google IoT Core for industrial control started today. 77,000 people signe…
> This angers the industrial internet-of-things community. Hopefully they'll learn that if it's locked down to being tied to one person's cloud it's likely to become a paperweight in a few years.
Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google Cloud (VMs, blob storage, databases) bring in multiple billions of revenue a year from enterprise. The company invested billions in new data centers and transferred large parts of intenral technical infrastructure into cloud to build these products over a decade. If Google Cloud (VMs, blob storage, databases) shut down, not only will large # of enterprises howl (data gravity is huge), Google will absolutely ha…
As a former head of engineering for a mid-sized IoT company with many tens of thousands of devices deployed in the field using a competing product (no, not the AWS one), seeing this made my stomach churn. This was my second biggest fear after waking up to a ransomware attack. It's hard to imagine anyone trusting Google for IoT again. I will certainly put them at the bottom of my list for any other infrastructure I de…
Isn't that exactly what contracts are for? Can you build an entire company on the premise that some random cloud service will always be available?
Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a former head of engineering for a mid-sized IoT company with many tens of thousands of devices deployed in the field using a competing product (no, not the AWS one), seeing this made my stomach churn. This was my second biggest fear after waking up to a ransomware attack. It's hard to imagine anyone trusting Google for IoT again. I will certainly put them at the bottom of my list for any other infrastructure I de…
Had I started an IoT company, I would not have depended on any cloud IoT product. VMs, blob storage, containers, load balancers, hosted databases. But not anything labelled "IoT".
Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023
#130hahaa; wow. So, we were doing this sensor project; and I picked "boring" things like raspberry-pi, python scripts, wiring the GPIO with a screw-down terminal or using SDR for other off-the shelf sensors to build the network. And in one of the demos showing our very low-budget type project a reviewer said: "you should look at IoT managers like the G offering, we're using it". So, they declined to use our methods and b…
I hate the current trend of smearing your business logic across dozens of third-party providers with various business goals that rarely align with yours. I'm also not confident that the constant churn of keeping up with API changes (if not outright deprecations like this) and costs of the third-party services end up costing you more than just doing it yourself. Finally, what we've seen with Okta, Twilio, most recentl…
One issue is that the bigger you become, the more interesting you are as a target to break. So if you're a small company using a big company as a vendor, you've probably introduced a weaker link.
But if you're still small as a SaaS, trust is an issue to acquiring customers. I'm wondering where the sweetspot is.