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Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

galleywest200 wrote: post #66

It looks to me that this is only shipments from Taiwan to China > Apple has asked suppliers to ensure that shipments from Taiwan to China strictly comply with Chinese customs regulations after a recent visit by senior U.S. lawmaker Nancy Pelosi to Taipei stoked fears of rising trade barriers. Am I missing something? I do not see a requirement that all package from Taiwan say they are from China.

You're missing the biggest practical source of fake news: people are absolutely determined to comment on articles after reading only the headline, and headlines optimize for attention-grabbing rather than informativeness. You're completely right about what actually happened here, but the majority of people who see this while it's on the front page are going to walk away confident that Apple did some much more problematic thing.

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Post by lupire »

BudaDude wrote: post #33

This should honestly be picked up by a larger news organization. If the US is serious about protecting Taiwan and bringing more chips to the US, Apple should be shamed for choosing Chinese profits. Imagine if Apple told Ukraine employees to label Russia on their badges.

Headline is falsified. This is about boxes shipped into China, not people.

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Post by JackFr »

the_duke wrote: post #87
ericmay wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, an alternative interpretation would be that Apple (like much of the world) is in a no-win situation because an assumption that they had (like much of the world) was that investment, fair trade, and bringing China into the established international organizations would result in liberalization (within reason) of China and that they'd be a full partner in global stability. The grand bargain. But instead the CCP re…

Alternative view: Apple has spent many years happily profiting from cheap Chinese manufacturing, labor, electrial engineering expertise and supply chains to the point where they are now completely beholden to a foreign country. A country whose increasing rivalry with the US in economic power and geopolitical influence (along with increased tensions) has been clear for well over a decade. Apple is diversifying a bit i…

> but China could throw Apple into a huge crisis tomorrow if they were cut off, since it would take years to ramp up capacity elsewhere.

Would not be painless for China though. The thing about trade is, it’s trade. While Apple and American consumers benefit, so does China or obviously they wouldn’t trade. They’re not making our phones as a charity to us.

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Post by robotnikman »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #25

I have a friend working for a company whose biggest clients are in the Emirates. One of said client is the government, and it is asking them to buy some very specific equipment, knowing fully well this equipment is only sold in Israel. However, the Emirates cannot trade with Israel, and refuse to pay for any equipment labelled as coming from this country. Calling one of the officials, they asked for a solution. They…

Somewhat odd, considering that NSO group sold their services to the UAE

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Post by nixcraft »

the_duke wrote: post #87
ericmay wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, an alternative interpretation would be that Apple (like much of the world) is in a no-win situation because an assumption that they had (like much of the world) was that investment, fair trade, and bringing China into the established international organizations would result in liberalization (within reason) of China and that they'd be a full partner in global stability. The grand bargain. But instead the CCP re…

Alternative view: Apple has spent many years happily profiting from cheap Chinese manufacturing, labor, electrial engineering expertise and supply chains to the point where they are now completely beholden to a foreign country. A country whose increasing rivalry with the US in economic power and geopolitical influence (along with increased tensions) has been clear for well over a decade. Apple is diversifying a bit i…

India and Vietnam, which are already sites of Apple production, are among the countries being seen as an alternative option to China[1]. However, parts for iPhone, iPad and Macs come from around the globe and are assembled in China, India and Vietnam. Apple depends upon a global supply chain to make final products. The production of the iPhone doubled this year in India because of ongoing geo-tension and strict lockdowns in China. However, that is just 7% of production iPhones. Anyway, I hope China and the USA reach some middle ground and keep Taiwan safe. Any war between these two giant countries would disaster the world economy and escalate to world war 3.

[1] https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/apple-in...

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Post by CogitoCogito »

traceroute66 wrote: post #26
lucasjans wrote: post #2

This company pretends it has the moral high ground, but like most of corporate America, they always have an eye on Chinese profits. America's future is at stake and we won't wake up until it's too late.

> This company pretends it has the moral high ground, but like most of corporate America, they always have an eye on Chinese profits. To be fair, it's not fair to use this as an occasion for Apple bashing or America bashing. The whole Taiwan thing goes much deeper. For example, if you look at ISO3166, the country code standard. If you look up Taiwan in ISO3166[1], you will see it listed as "Taiwan (Province of China)…

> So, if a supposedly neutral international body sees it fit to maintain the link, then what hope have you got for individual countries or their companies ?

The body was most certainly not neutral.

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Post by kennywinker »

ericmay wrote: post #94
ElectricalUnion wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And basically everyone here is choosing cheaper Chinese goods so we're all complicit too. You mean big corporations and their greedy shareholders choose for us?

If you take that point of view you deprive yourself of agency.

What agency do we have? Consumer choice only goes as far as the options available. What computer or phone can you buy that isn’t made under dubious or known-bad labour conditions? The option of no phone or no computer is only generally an option if you have the money to not require a job at all

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Post by garettmd »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #42
kshacker wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As part of free speech, can a company from somewhere in south send out parts in boxes with confederate flag on the box? We make decisions to curtail free speech everyday so how's this different?

I'm not American, so I may be missing some details, but is that actually not allowed? Or is it rather the case that some people may not like that, so companies try to avoid upsetting some customers?

Yes, that is totally allowed. It is trivial to find products with the confederate flag printed on them.
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