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Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash

#121

Can we get a source for that? Because at the moment, it's just a comment made by a person on the internet with nothing backing it up...

Someone on Twitter reverse engineered an earlier version of the list https://twitter.com/moyix/status/1433254293352730628 and the list linked somewhere in that thread contains "gender" (see https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=32339001 for direct links).

Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash

#122
So I've just tested it, and I can confirm, yes, copilot refuses to give suggestions related to gender. Now I know a lot of people are calling this absurd, but looking more closely, there are two PR nightmare scenarios.

1. Copilot makes a suggestion that implies gender is binary, a certain community explodes with anger and an entire news hype cycle starts about how Microsoft is enforcing views on gender with code.

2. Copilot makes a suggestion that implies gender is nonbinary, a certain community explodes with anger and an entire news hype cycle starts...

You can't win... so why not plea the fifth?

To all those claiming this is an example of "wokeism", remember the proper response from an individual who believes in nonbinary gender would be to offer suggestions of the sort. There is no advocacy here. Mums the word.

Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash

#123
There’s no reason to be surprised that elements within GitHub have an agenda. They’ve been clear about it since changing support for git’s master branch to main and then gaslighting the portion of community that doesn’t use the terminal about it.

Now I’ve got Gen-Z developers that are confused and upset when `git init` does what it’s always done.

GitHub, Microsoft ownership notwithstanding, was always going to inject its employees’ politics into Copilot.

Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash

#125

Aren't we missing the forest for the trees here? We're zeroing in on how silly is it for copilot to trigger its content filter on the word "gender". To me the real issue is that copilot has a content filter in the first place. It's unwelcome and unnecessary.

There’s a zealous push by a small but extremely vocal fringe to impose their very particular worldview onto emerging AI/ML models like this.

They refer to it as “eliminating bias”, but it’s really just an attempt to mold these new technologies into conformance with one very specific set of ideological commitments.

Proponents view it as some kind of obvious universal good, and are confused when anyone else is appalled by the blind foolishness of it all.

Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash

#126

That's silly. So can I put "gender" as the first line in my code to stop copilot from ingesting it altogether? Are there any other break-words? Master, slave, Carlin's seven words, etc?

An earlier version of the list that someone found (see https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=32339001 for links) does contain "gender", "slavery" and "master race" but not "master" and "slave" itself, ironically.

Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash

#128
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I call BS. The "word filter" answer was selected as the valid answer by a third party (not OP).That's what the OP replied to another comment : > Heargo 24 days ago > Thanks, I'll try as soon as I get the problem again (somehow it's not bugged anymore...). Looks like it was just a temporary issue with no evidence that's it's due to a word filter.

FYI, there is in fact a bad word filter in GitHub Copilot. When it was first released, the list was stored client-side in obfuscated form and I had a lot of fun decoding it: https://twitter.com/moyix/status/1433254293352730628 The Register wrote about it too: https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/02/github_copilot_banned... They have since moved the bad word list server-side to prevent people from figuring out what's o…

Hahaha some of those banned words are very mild. Wuzzocks, numbnuts, and rodgering?

Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash

#129
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's gonna come soon enough. The backlash is already mounting. I'm just honestly super exhausted by any of the insanity right now, not even only regarding this topic. It's just complete black-and-white thinking these days, no matter about what it is. Extremes only. The stronger your opinion the better, how else would you feel like you exist? Almost no one with a rational, centered overarching perspective. Twenty year…

> The backlash is already mounting. Is it? To me it feels like it's getting worse and worse, but that might be my bubble.

This mind virus is even capturing science. Here's a job opening for a Research Chair in Experimental Physics.

"Candidates must be from one or more of the following equity-seeking groups to apply: women, persons with disabilities, Indigenous peoples, and racialized groups"

https://www.universityaffairs.ca/search-job/?job_id=58317

Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Verboten words that are completely commonplace and mundanely acceptable outside of a certain small but powerful bubble

I’m not aware of any such bubble which forbids the use of the word “gender”. Which bubble are you referring to? Disclaimer: I’m a queer non-binary leftist, and many of my community and loved ones are at least one of those. The closest thing to any “verboten” I’m aware of is “gender critical”, and as far as I can tell that’s mostly a term used by detractors in my own community, and even so it doesn’t reject usage of t…

One of the possible explanations is maybe whenever you typed "gender" it suggested one of the two possibilities next to it or some kind of binary type which might be something github wants to avoid but I am just speculating.
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