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Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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This is so weird and creepy, I just applied!

Let’s start a hacker news town!

A Hacker News town would be awful. A bloated mess of JavaScript powered "smart" things connected to a surveillance capitalism advertising dystopia.

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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Yeah, this kind of split-level design was super common in the PNW and 1980s isn't even particularly old when it comes to housing (plenty of houses in the Seattle metro area that are from the '20s...). Like here's a random listing from 30 seconds of searching that has light renovations: https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/10201-23rd-Ct-SW-98146/hom... and if you spend enough time looking for "affordable" options in subu…

My realtor says that split level design is known locally as the "BC Box"

Came to post this name. Yep it's a "BC Box." Very common in the suburbs of Vancouver built from the 70s through 80s. If you buy some random old house in Coquitlam or Langley in an "old" neighbourhood it's probably something like this.

So clearly the design was common throughout the rest of BC, even up north too!

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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(At the risk of sounding uninformed) - why?

Due to spherical geometry, Prince Rupert is closer to Asia than any other reasonable North American port (sorry, Skagway) south of Anchorage. Kitsault is just up the inlet, and much easier to reach (crossing the Coast Mountains sunk Prince Rupert). It also happens to be easier (lower) to cross the Rockies (CA-16) when you're north of Prince George, so Kitsault could possibly have better access to Chicago than does, s…

The inlets around BC's coast are certainly treacherous and that's been a source of controversy around the various LNG and oil pipeline projects as depending on the site it seems inevitable that someone is going to sink.

I recall some company got in some controversy because during a public information session they had maps where they'd straight up removed many of the islands and shoals from the maps of the inlet.

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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Out of curiosity I looked it up on a map [1]. It appears two of the closest settlements [2],[3] are also ghost towns or otherwise pretty much abandoned. Kind of nice to know there are habitable but uninhabited places left in the world. [1] https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Kitsault+%2C+BC&ia=web&iaxm... [2] https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Arm,_British_Columbia [3] https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Anyox

There were plenty of towns set up purely for ruthlessly exploiting resources and then when the resources were gone the town closed up. On the coast these were often whaling towns or salmon fishing canning towns. In the interior it was mining.

Barkerville is an extremely well preserved olde gold rush mining town and well worth a visit if one visits the interior of BC. https://www.barkerville.ca/

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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Let’s start a hacker news town!

Uhm, The infra looks super depressing... https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Kitsault,+BC+V0J+3T0,+Canad...

Yeah, that operating room is straight out of a horror movie

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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I just emailed them asking if they are doing anything with it. They responded and sent me here: http://www.kitsaultenergy.com/index.html

I’ll check the site out when on non-mobile. But what sort of internet connectivity?

Starlink

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Due to spherical geometry, Prince Rupert is closer to Asia than any other reasonable North American port (sorry, Skagway) south of Anchorage. Kitsault is just up the inlet, and much easier to reach (crossing the Coast Mountains sunk Prince Rupert). It also happens to be easier (lower) to cross the Rockies (CA-16) when you're north of Prince George, so Kitsault could possibly have better access to Chicago than does, s…

There's rail access to Port Edward (just a couple miles from Prince Rupert) currently, going by what you can see in Google Maps. Looks like it follows a pretty flat route, though it winds around to follow the shorelines / rivers. I wonder how much sea level rise or flooding it would take to inundate that rail line and the Yellowhead highway? They seem like they're barely above water level now. Using Kisault as a port…

> Almost everyone got off.

Rumour is that the acting Captain was getting his rocks off instead of doing his job of not crashing into rocks at full speed.

https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/books/captain-of-b-c-...

In the end there was no hard proof. Two people died, bodies never found. The officer was convicted with a four-year jail term (I’ve no idea how long he actually served.)

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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It's neat to see one of my personal holy grails of urban exploring being posted here and then see people talking about gentrifying an entire preserved town from the 80s to build some kind of weird techbro commune. Never change HN.

I get the disdain for gentrification when it displaces existing communities.

I have a harder time seeing the harm in finding a productive use for a city that currently doesn’t have a productive use. It’s cool that this place exists, and is a bit of a time capsule. But it’s not that noteworthy or valuable beyond being a mild curiosity, and certainly not worth preserving if it can be used for actual benefit instead.

I always thought part of the appeal of urban exploration and abandoned sites was the knowledge that abandoned places get redeveloped, and the fun is in exploring it before it gets turned into something new and shiny. Artificially preserving a place that could have another use takes it from “urban exploration” to visiting a museum, which is much less cool

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