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Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

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Re: Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

#121
> We expect third quarter 2022 total revenue to be in the range of $26-28.5 billion. This outlook reflects a continuation of the weak advertising demand environment we experienced throughout the second quarter, which we believe is being driven by broader macroeconomic uncertainty. ...

"Macroeconomic uncertainty" is almost certainly code for "fear about an impending recession." An advertising company like Facebook is especially vulnerable given that ad spending is one of the first things to go when companies start losing customers/revenue/investors in the early phases of a downturn.

Re: Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

#122
post #82

This is likely the peak for facebook, the website. But it may not be a peak for facebook, the company - it is time for a new product. Facebook successfully digested any vital competition in the social media market, the big question is whether they (still) have the innovation gene in their DNA. Alternatively, they could keep acquiring any new emerging social apps like BeReal, especially targeting the youngest people,…

When did they last do innovation? As far as I can tell the site is hardly different from when the Wall / News Feed was invented in... what, 2005? Since then they've made a few minor extensions of the site, a few major acquisitions of competitors, and that's it.

not sure if you’re just referring to the network itself, but Meta has done a ton of innovation. React, PyTorch, Jest, RocksDB, etc etc.

As an app though, no clue. Haven’t had a Facebook account for 6-7 years. Feel like people just have such a poor view of social media now that they are on a downward spiral. Lots of smart people there though, hopefully we can move away from social media and focus on social welfare.

Re: Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

#123

"Headcount was 83,553 as of June 30, 2022, an increase of 32% year-over-year." Like ... why? They hired 20 000 employees net in a year? And Zuckerberg now somehow says that they need to tighten the belt?

I have no idea what all those people are actually doing. That seems so heavy a head count for the public end result. Is there a break down somewhere of how many are SWE vs SRE vs support?

Meta doesn't use SREs. There is a position called Production Engineer[1] which has the same skills and does almost the same work as a SWE, but has different focus - scalability, reliability, security, automation. The ballpark ratio is 10 SWE to 1 PE.

[1] - https://engineering.fb.com/category/production-engineering/

Re: Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

#124
post #98

I am very bullish on FB: 1) Founder still has majority voting shares, gives a lot more freedom. 2) I think the Metaverse stuff will pay off in the long run 3) They are making the changes necessary to compete with TikTok. I am buying shares now at this price

I'm not:

2) They will be facing increasing amounts of competition ex. apple. The metaverse is more than the hardware. The first big player in this space will be a game company, possibly one we aren't aware of yet.

3) Not enough to change anyone's usage habits. Just slows down the inevitable.

4) Privacy and the ads environment will continue to hurt them. There's no answer to this yet.

Re: Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

#125

"Headcount was 83,553 as of June 30, 2022, an increase of 32% year-over-year." Like ... why? They hired 20 000 employees net in a year? And Zuckerberg now somehow says that they need to tighten the belt?

I suspect a few reasons, some of which are shared by all of the tech companies that over-hired:

- Prestige. There are a lot of companies (especially VC funded startups) that have massively over-hired because a large headcount of high-end engineers is a signal to the market (and importantly, VCs) as to your seriousness.

- Talent denial to competitors. If you don't want anyone to catch up in a space (say, VR) you can get a long way by simply hiring the entire talent pool dry. This is however an incredibly expensive strategy that presumes you have a gargantuan amount of cashflow. I suspect this was a large part of FB's strategy, but they are no longer in a financial position to sustain it. Google has done this to a large extent for AI, and do not appear to be letting up.

- Just like code, forming new teams is easier than refactoring old teams. In big companies every part of the product feels essential (until the crisis moment, where every cut is on the table and a more sober accounting occurs), and so the default inclination in good times is to keep every team but add more teams/headcount in order to take on additional work. In bad times one is much more inclined to exchange one initiative for another, rather than simply accumulating initiatives.

Re: Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

#126

Guidance is atrocious. While the misses might not look bad in isolation, the overall picture isn’t looking good. The COO just quit after an extremely successful run, guidance is bad, and worst of all, the planned rebranding to Metaverse has been hijacked by crypto bros shilling ponzis on steroids.

>hijacked by crypto bros shilling ponzis on steroids

wat?

Re: Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

#128
post #94

"Headcount was 83,553 as of June 30, 2022, an increase of 32% year-over-year." Like ... why? They hired 20 000 employees net in a year? And Zuckerberg now somehow says that they need to tighten the belt?

Yeah, that casts a very different light over the suggested layoffs.

It doesn't. Lot's of tech companies over-hired, over-invested both in 1999 and 2021. Can companies be conservative? Yes, but people were also predicting a tech crash in 2010, 2011, 2012....

Re: Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’ve deeply embedded themselves into my life because of Whatsapp. Life and work are nearly impossible here without Whatsapp.

Whatsapp is really deeply embedded in business in Latin America and it's deeply concerning to me. It was already reading your conversations. At best, it's going to start serving ads soon.

How is WhatsApp embedded in business?

Re: Meta Reports Second Quarter 2022 Results

#130

On the metaverse question: does anyone seriously believe Facebook can innovate, let alone build a new industry?

I don't think anyone can create the metaverse. The technology that needs to be built is a brain-computer interface, but humanity is currently incapable of anything even close to that. No amount of money or political power can make it happen, at least not in the next 50 years.
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