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no, in the west we see companies banning content, not the govt. pot, kettle.
What social media company in the US bans positive coverage of mRNA vaccines? In the US algorithms ban content, often by mistake. In China a political official or someone working for the government reviews the content personally. Big difference.
Lots of folks here arguing that the focus on TikTok is unfair, given the data collection practices of domestic corps like Facebook. From a privacy point of view, this argument is well-founded, but I think it's tangential to the argument TFA is making, which is: this data collection done by a foreign government and exploited for surveillance or espionage is a national security risk. I get it. We want corps to stop hoo…
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I don't have a horse in this race at all, but the annoying part is that the same rules don't get applied across the board. Everything they're accusing TikTok of - from data harvesting to the government having access to said data - is true for western companies as well and that should be the problem. Not the fact that the data is now in the hands of the Chinese but that the data is being collected at all provided to t…
The audacity of the US. They literally spy and collect data from the whole internet - not just US citizens, EVERYONE! Data collection aside - relying on a single Appstore that is governed by US law is not acceptable.
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> You could argue that a data hoarder in a jurisdiction other than your own is even less significant for personal data security. I kinda feel this way. On a national security level, China having everyone's data is absolutely a disaster. But on a personal level - if I lived in the United States, I would rather the Chinese government surveil me than the US government.
They aren’t just going to surveil you though. They will actively work to promote disinformation to you.
China's big players from what I have seen have incompetent at even just advertising in the west. I remember reading an American study that went into this around the time these alerts around foreign misinformation started to get big. Turns out Russia is pretty damn good at it. The bit China tries is small and again incompetent (An example given was at small scale shelling out to buy popular content accounts and suddenly turning them from a volkswagen beetle account into a full on propaganda account only to get instabanned) and there's somehow a lot more anti china bots on twitter than pro. Having no horse in either place i'm not particularly outraged about the attempts especially considering the US does similar more effectively.
Of course not. Every government is going to look out for themselves. Following your reasoning, look at China. They have their own playbook for operating within China, and it is quite restrictive. They make it harder for foreign entities to do business within China. From a geopolitical viewpoint this makes complete sense. You don't want your rival to have a backdoor into influencing/manipulating/discovering how people…
Of course not. Every government is going to look out for themselves. Following your reasoning, look at China. They have their own playbook for operating within China, and it is quite restrictive. They make it harder for foreign entities to do business within China. From a geopolitical viewpoint this makes complete sense. You don't want your rival to have a backdoor into influencing/manipulating/discovering how people…
Well in that case I hope you don't moan when the EU places heavy restrictions on the data harvesting that American companies do. I get the paranoia around China, I honestly do. I'm not at all unsupportive of the Chinese regime either. But this "one rule for us another for them" principle really needs to stop.
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They ban them because the companies don't want to follow the same rules Chinese companies have to follow. It's exactly what I'm asking for. Have one set of rules and apply them to everyone. Ban data harvesting completely. Ban it for Facebook, Google and everyone else and then kick out TikTok because they don't follow the rules.
They ban them because they won’t censor factual information and won’t promote disinformation. See how Chinese censorship applies to mRNA vaccine conspiracy theories. A person that debunked them was banned from wechat. Do you see western governments doing this?
To be clear, I'm not in favour of the Chinese regime but your particular point does still require a citation.
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Which takes me at why we have to be rivals (we people in countries), because government are rivals and monopolize trading and resources for themselves? It is very stupid that we passively accept those rules and let them drag us like that into things of this nature. I am really (I am european) pissed off by the fact that someone decided we needed a war with Ukraine when we do not have anything for/against Russia or Uk…
> I really do not accept that, I want to have friends from wherever, go with whoever and do business with whom I deem appropriate without asking permission to anyone. The reason that systems of economic sanctions exist is to provide alternatives to war. Europe learned some very rough lessons in the 20th century and earlier, leading up to the formation of the EU and before that the formation of the UN. These instituti…
I am not talking about this. I am talking about the fact that it is an oligarchy who chooses whether we go to war or not. I do not think most spanish think that Spain should be involved in a war that is at the other side of Europe where either of those country did anything to us. This is what I mean.
These wars respond to oligarchies interests, not to normal citizens interests.
I do not know if you get my point. Maybe there are real problems in Ukraine, well there are. But how is that really a reason to involve Spain? Why? Diplomacy, yes, sending weapons no. What if Russia decides we are in a black list later? Were we able to make a choice? Bc this involves our security and our economy and affects normal citizens.
So there is necessarily someone interested in this that is not normal, average people like me.
Lots of folks here arguing that the focus on TikTok is unfair, given the data collection practices of domestic corps like Facebook. From a privacy point of view, this argument is well-founded, but I think it's tangential to the argument TFA is making, which is: this data collection done by a foreign government and exploited for surveillance or espionage is a national security risk. I get it. We want corps to stop hoo…
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