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Re: Irwin – the protector of Lichess from all chess players villainous

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High level humans and chess engines play differently. You can see commentary on chess YouTube videos when they run across cheaters. Also the chess engines people use are accessible, you can compare what a suspected cheater does with what the cheater does and if they’re exactly the same consistently, you have a pretty strong signal. One of the bigger tells are strange moves that set up a many move series resulting in…

> High level humans and chess engines play differently. You can see commentary on chess YouTube videos when they run across cheaters. That's similar to people describing how to catch other frauds, such as fake Amazon comments or bots. It's medieval 'science': They usually have no evidence of their accuracy, either false negatives (frauds who they overlook) and false positives (people falsely accused of fraud). So it'…

People have been asking for a transparency report to verify accuracy for various countermeasures for awhile. The platforms simply won't release that kind of information (chess.com & lichess.com)

They have an incentive to show their game isn't a den of cheaters, and yet they don't release which means there is a stronger incentive to hide that information.

Makes you wonder what kind of incentives are preventing them from releasing that information. Marketing says 100's of millions of games. Are they games between two people, or potentially a lot of matches against computers (where you don't know they are computers up front). Food for thought.

Re: Irwin – the protector of Lichess from all chess players villainous

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What obvious risks and dangers?

False positives, I assume.

It doesn't address them. The original maintainer clark something never responded. Ornicar closed the issue. The false positive rate is pretty high but they don't care since you can sign up with a new account in a few seconds.
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