Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

imgur.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

121–130 of 245 posts

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#121

Post by NonNefarious »

totetsu wrote: post #20
gnicholas wrote: post #15

A few reactions: Although you can just turn off notifications at the app level, this is annoying because it means you can't won't get notifications for emergency/safety notices, people messaging you directly, etc. The number of relevant agencies will vary by your location, and in my 10 years on ND I have only received an agency notification once or twice. However, I think agencies were only introduced a few years ago…

iOS only lets you turn off bluetooth for a day at a time.

Not if you go into the actual settings.

The problem is that Apple is too stupid to respect the setting you make there. If you turn off Bluetooth in your system settings, they should treat the control panel's Bluetooth switch as a true on/off. But no; it's always temporary.

Sometimes Apple can't figure out how to solve simple UI problems. When they even bother to try, their "solution" is an overly complicated, unreliable mess.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#122

Post by Macha »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #9

Honestly, email notifications and the concept of "unsubscribing" is a big fad. 9/10 services that I try to unsubscribe to, end up asking confusing questions, and instead of ubsubbing me at once, they will rather ask me which topics I'm interested in. So much for the email "privacy". I guess I'm better off not giving two shits about it.

The one thing I miss since leaving Google for mail is the knowledge that I could use the report spam button on companies that made unsubscribing difficult and if enough users did this, it hurt their deliverability to most of their customers.

On Fastmail, as far as I know, the spam filter model is only updated for my organisation, and even if they had a service wide filter taking user feedback, they are much smaller.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#123

Post by ta8645 »

bmarquez wrote: post #89
toofy wrote: post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

Oof, I had to delete my Nextdoor account after witnessing that same kind paranoia (with a hint of racism). The last post I read that caused me to delete my account was about an elderly woman complaining about a brown guy taking pictures of his own car on a public street. (It seemed like he was putting it up for sale, after looking at the photo "evidence" and he obviously was the owner.) When I commented it was that i…

No post body was provided.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#124

Post by veb »

1123581321 wrote: post #86
toofy wrote: post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

That specific creeping behavior is hilarious. Several years ago, my daughter and I found a lost dog clearly a family pet near our home near a busy road. We trapped it in our shaded yard and went around with some quick flyers to find the owner as we knew it was one of 30 homes. Multiple people revealing as little of their eyes as possible through blinds and curtains became funnier and funnier. (Eventually we found the…

Good on you for making the effort. The daughter would've been beside herself!

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#125

Post by maxehmookau »

toofy wrote: post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

I agree. Local facebook and whatsapp groups are the worst for this sort of thing.

I solved it by becoming the benevolent dictator of a handful of my local online groups and swiftly delete messages like this.

It's not perfect, but it'll do.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#126

Post by kelnos »

AlbertCory wrote: post #97
dylan604 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Think about it -- almost every site on the Web is trying to get you to sign up for a daily email. Nextdoor already has one, and they're trying to take it away. Well, this is kind of a "duh!" moment though, yeah? Of course they don't want your only interaction with them to be a single email once a day. That's so Web1.0. They want you on their appyApp so that they can hit you with all of their engagement algos and ga…

Why? Well, the alternative is: I never go to their stupid website. Whereas now, I go there when some entry in the daily email is interesting. And very occasionally, contribute something that entices other people to go there. Nextdoor: "Hey, how about you come here several times a day and stay, like we were a real website or something?" Me: "Nope, nope, nope. Buh bye."

Right, and I bet the experiment was to figure out how many people would notice the missing email, and either complain, or start visiting the site more often. Of course we'll never know if most people are more like you, or would actually go to the site daily, if it weren't for the email.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#127

Post by t-writescode »

sem000 wrote: post #14

NextDoor continues to spam you even after unsubscribing from everything. Some how every month I get a random new email, and some how another new email subscription is enabled in my account. Also, advertising on their platform brings almost $0 ROI. The only benefit was a decently ranked back link.

Friendly reminder: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/can-spam-act...

> Each separate email in violation of the CAN-SPAM Act is subject to penalties of up to $46,517, so non-compliance can be costly. But following the law isn’t complicated. Here’s a rundown of CAN-SPAM’s main requirements:

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#128

Post by te_chris »

Lammy wrote: post #94
AlbertCory wrote: post #24

NextDoor: home of the dumbest people on the Internet. They must be proud of that. There are occasionally things I want to see on there: a new Costco going in where the OSH Hardware used to be, or whatnot. So I got the daily email digest. One email per day -- tolerable. Then it stopped coming. I wrote to Support, and their guy swore it was still being sent! I said "no, it's not. I looked in Spam and Trash." He swore a…

> Nextdoor already has one, and they're trying to take it away. Once a day isn’t “engaging” enough when Nextdoor’s biggest competitor is built around real-time notifications of fear-porn-near-you: https://citizen.com/

Jesus. That is some proper scifi dystopian stuff. Any employees on here? How do you live with yourselves?

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#129

Post by iamacyborg »

Macha wrote: post #122
princevegeta89 wrote: post #9

Honestly, email notifications and the concept of "unsubscribing" is a big fad. 9/10 services that I try to unsubscribe to, end up asking confusing questions, and instead of ubsubbing me at once, they will rather ask me which topics I'm interested in. So much for the email "privacy". I guess I'm better off not giving two shits about it.

The one thing I miss since leaving Google for mail is the knowledge that I could use the report spam button on companies that made unsubscribing difficult and if enough users did this, it hurt their deliverability to most of their customers. On Fastmail, as far as I know, the spam filter model is only updated for my organisation, and even if they had a service wide filter taking user feedback, they are much smaller.

I’m not sure how fastmail handle it, but with hotmail Microsoft would automatically send a list unsubscribe request if you marked an email as spam. Any legitimate mailing platform will honour that request.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#130

Post by mcv »

adamredwoods wrote: post #110
toofy wrote: post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

At least they did not shoot her. And it's not NextDoor, it's only exposing a larger issue. https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/5/7/18528014/fear-social-med... >> The issue is compounded by the media, Ewoldsen says. >> “If you see more coverage of crime you think it’s more of an issue, even if real-world statistics say it isn’t,” Ewoldsen said. >> And all this is happening at a very contentious point in time, both politic…

> At least they did not shoot her.

Exactly. The giant glaring irony of the situation is that these paranoid neighbours are themselves the biggest danger to their neighbourhood. They're the ones creating an environment where you can't walk down the street, ring someone's door, ask for help, photograph your car, or pretty much do anything in public anymore.

They are the real menace to society, but they can't see that.

Post reply on HN