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Leaked Amazon memo warns the company is running out of people to hire

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Post by drewcoo »

youessayyyaway wrote: post #81

I think this article might bury the lede a bit: >Walmart is offering some workers with past warehouse experience as much as $25 an hour. An Amazon executive told Reuters in late 2021 that the company was bumping the average starting wage for new hires in the US to more than $18 an hour, attributing the decision to intense competition among employers. People used to work for Amazon warehouses in the 2010s because $15/…

> this article might bury the lede

That's the whole point of the "leaked" information articles. Getting media outlets to publish whatever insiders told them, ideally verbatim.

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Post by adrianb »

spamizbad wrote: post #72
alangibson wrote: post #22

The Fed is about to induce 3 years worth of rising unemployment by their own estimates, so the days of workers not needing to take crap jobs out of desperation will soon be at an end. https://qz.com/2178359/the-fed-predicts-3-years-of-rising-un...

ah but it will control inflation. So when the bank repossesses your home you can rest easy knowing a gallon of milk is 7 cents cheaper.

Actually controlling inflation means slowing it down. So the gallon of milk will be only 7 cents more expensive than last month, not 70 cents.

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Post by mc32 »

alangibson wrote: post #110
mc32 wrote: post #102

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Those idiots! Everyone and their mother knew that printing money since 2008 was going to blow up one day. Technology and unsubstantiated sectors allowed them to print without repercussions for a while and the administration and them also tried to fool people into believing the inflation was transitory... Reckless idiots. And now wage labor is the one to suffer most. 4TT in spending for BBB? Uhhuh! Even Yellen said it…

It's not the money supply. It's a supply side problem due to Corona shutdowns. All the Fed is about to do is induce a bunch of unemployment.

They primed the pump, stimulated the economy, people had a bunch of money to spend, no where to put it. But aside from that, we're seeing MFGs tell their suppliers to slow their parts deliveries as demand is cooling.

Their hands are in this. Corona has a role too, but so does the Fed and the admin. If instead of Biden and it were the Repubs, or, god forbid, Trump, imagine the headlines and finger pointing. we'd be getting --they'd probably be overshooting with their blaming, but we'd definitely see more blame at the foot of that administration and the Fed.

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Post by happytoexplain »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #118
happytoexplain wrote: post #79

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>I'm not attacking left-wing people You said "left-wing folks typically want ... more mass immigration", which I disagree with, though not with any real authority or conviction (I wrote a separate comment about it). The rub is - coming from most people on the internet at large, I would assume that statement was purposefully uncharitable, but I think on HN, the chances that a person (you, in this case) is being honest…

Yes, my honest impression is that left-wing people generally (i.e., it's a very popular position on the left) wanted to lower the barrier for "asylum seekers" which implies admitting lots of people without respect to their educational background or skill (hence "mass immigration"). I didn't realize this was controversial (I thought everyone agreed that this is a popular position on the left). This also isn't a value…

Ah, yeah, I agree. But I don't agree that that position is tantamount to "supporting mass immigration", by the normal colloquial meaning of that phrase. I think that wording, unqualified as in your original usage, implies antagonism toward the position you're describing (though, as I mentioned in another reply, "mass immigration" might have a domain-specific definition I'm not aware of? Sort of like how "obese" technically refers to a much lower weight than the way we use the word colloquially, and how "mass shooting" can technically mean a victim count as low as three, depending on other circumstances, again contrary to what the typical colloquial threshold probably is in most cases).

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kennywinker wrote: post #56
IMTDb wrote: post #23

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> There's a surplus of management eager to exploit workers. Can also be written "There's a surplus of customer eager to pay the lowest possible price even if that means exploiting workers." As shown by the success of Chinese super low cost brands wether we are talking electronics, fashion etc.

> "There's a surplus of customer eager to pay the lowest possible price even if that means exploiting workers." This is just wrong. First, Amazon’s prices and their wages for warehouse workers aren’t directly connected. If they were, amazon wouldn’t have posted 200B in profit in 2021. Given the 1.6mil employees, that’s $125k per employee of profit. Amazon could pay MUCH more, and still hold the same prices. Second, t…

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Post by cduzz »

azemetre wrote: post #89
mtnGoat wrote: post #63

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You could argue the reason is that they weren’t good enough.

Needing to see a doctor suddenly means you're a poor worker?

Needing to urinate while on shift also makes you a poor worker.

I see bottles of sun tea piled up in various places around town where delivery trucks pause for red lights.

Those are good workers, committed to the job.

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Post by rightbyte »

anonymousab wrote: post #107
azemetre wrote: post #89

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Needing to see a doctor suddenly means you're a poor worker?

For a maximal hypercapitalist corporation? Well, yeah. For as long as they are (seen as) trivially replaceable, an employee that sees a doctor, or has health concerns, or uses benefits of any kind, or really has any slip in their productivity even to the slightest degree is a poorer worker than one that doesn't. This stops working if you run out of people to hire, or if the cost of hiring increases past a certain thr…

> For a maximal hypercapitalist corporation? Well, yeah.

I don't think worker attrition is cost effective. It is just less work and lower skill requirement for the managers to rule by fear and overwork.

Isn't Amazon paying abit higher wages than the competition? They need to pay the bullshit fee to the workers.

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Post by leephillips »

starky wrote: post #111
sidvit wrote: post #47

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I'm a fairly inexperienced software engineer (<2 yrs experience) and I've been contacted by 3 separate Amazon recruiters on Linkedin in the past month alone if that means anything

I don't even do any coding and have gotten contacted by their recruiter for a SWE position in the past month. Seems like their recruiters are resorting to spray and pray when it comes to finding new hires.

That’s nothing. I’ve never programmed a computer, just recently learned how to use an abacus, and been in a coma for three years—yet 43 Amazon recruiters email and call me seven times a day for a software senior management job.
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