Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

For traditional business email, you are pretty much stuck with two options - Outlook or Thunderbird. You can try and use webmail of various types - and there are some decent webmail clients out there - but it's just not quite the same as using a good Desktop client.

For the newest Outlook versus the newest Thunderbird, Outlook wins feature wise - it does a lot of things and all of it is pretty well integrated. But if you don't need all the bells and whistles, Thunderbird, in my opinion, is oftentimes better than Outlook.

For example, I find that Thunderbird has a better search than Outlook, and better conversation capabilities (threading and open message in conversation) than Outlook. It's tagging system and archiving system are better than Outlook's. It's add-on system is easier to use then Outlook's (partly because most everything is free). It also allows much more manipulation of the UI than Outlook does as far as I'm aware. All of these things add up, and Thunderbird becomes a much more efficient email client than Outlook for me, which is important if I need to deal with 100 or so emails a day.

On top of these things, in my opinion, Thunderbird is really good and not causing issues down the line. Part of my job is to manage workplace computers (probably no where near as many as some folk here on this site, but not a really small amount either), the amount of trouble Thunderbird gives me compared to the amount of trouble Outlook gives me... well, it makes me want to make everyone use Thunderbird. There are only two things I really have to worry about with thunderbird (they relate to the calendar and mass moving large amounts of emails), but with Outlook... well... I've had to repair people's email enough that I never want to do it again. It sucks. I hate repairing .pst files.

Mmm... I personally have never tried Evolution or davmail, so I can't speak to them, unfortunately. I will have to try them later probably. As for Exchange OAuth, yeah, I can see you having some troubles with it in Thunderbird. I was having Microsoft 365's IMAP implementation give us trouble (ended up dropping it). On the other hand, it was also giving older versions of Outlook trouble... so I'm not sure I can put the blame solely on Thunderbird for this one. I do hope you find something that does what you want it to though.

It's the most viable and promising so far I think. I have too many directories for it to be usable without some new features, though (namely highlight dirs with new mail and more filtering capabilities). It's practically unusable, but granted I may have an unusual setup. If you just have a handful of active folders it might be great.

Didn't notice any surprising syncing issues so far.

[1]: https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/

> does not group messages by conversation

Thunderbird can group messages by conversation. One has to ask for it specifically in the Sorting menu, which admittedly is annoying and should be the default. But it is there.

> [client-side spam filtering] is not needed anymore since GMail and its modern competition.

It kind of is, though. Not everyone is using GMail, and my idea of what does or does not count as Spam might differ significantly from what some email provider thinks.

I'm sure there are prettier mail clients around, and by all means, if you prefer one of those, use it. I used Apple's Mail.app when I using a Mac, because I needed to access an Exchange mailbox at the time, which sucks on Thunderbird. The UI looked shiny, I never got upset about it (UI or functionality), but I happily went back to Thunderbird when I got back to Linux.

It might be interesting to try and port/rewrite siag/scheme in a grid to racket (or Julia...)?

It's the only "light-weight" office suite that comes to mind...