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Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups

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Post by that_guy_iain »

grepfru_it wrote: post #105
matheusmoreira wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. Few things are worse than spending time and effort figuring out a complex repository, making and testing changes to the code and sending in a patch only to get ignored .

Good to see open source hasn't changed in 20 years. This has been my biggest gripe. You have an idea, you present real world use cases, you submit a patch.. Only to have your idea ridiculed or ignored as you point out. THEN, a few weeks/months/years later, your same patch is accepted by someone else with a twitter blue checkmark to rave reviews.

I once asked about the possiblity of adding a feature to a project. I was told before I even created the PR that it wouldn't get accepted because there would be no need for such a feature. I looked at the project a few months later and it had that feature.

Sometimes the biggest problem to getting new contributors is the current contributors. A great example of that is when Laravel asked the community on reddit why they didn't contribute or what was the biggest hurdle. Everyone responded with the guy who was triaging the tickets. Literally, he would act like a Reddit moderator. One line responses such as "Short answer is , no."

Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups

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Post by Youden »

hotpotamus wrote: post #28
Youden wrote: post #4

It's been raised but doesn't appear to be a large enough issue to be put on the roadmap: https://community.bitwarden.com/t/allow-attachments-to-be-ex... The project is open-source, maybe send them a pull request?

I like Bitwarden and open source, but attachments are a paid feature for them, so you'd be essentially working to add value to their paid features for free. That feels unfair to me.

Isn't this argument basically true of any major open-source project? There's always a commercial user somewhere who benefits from your work without paying for it.

A contribution to Bitwarden would benefit the paid hosting, sure, but it'd also benefit folks who are self-hosting.

Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups

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Post by Youden »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #38
Youden wrote: post #4

It's been raised but doesn't appear to be a large enough issue to be put on the roadmap: https://community.bitwarden.com/t/allow-attachments-to-be-ex... The project is open-source, maybe send them a pull request?

> The project is open-source, maybe send them a pull request? Just because a project is open-source doesn't mean they'll accept a pull request with your feature request in it.

I suggested that mainly because the original poster seemed to be saying "it's so easy, just do X", so it should be minimal effort to send a PR.

If it were to be something requiring more effort I'd suggest engaging with the project and asking if a PR would be welcome first.

Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups

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Post by foobiekr »

mdaniel wrote: post #114
foobiekr wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When exporting data, in any of the supported formats, 1password will warn the following: Some of the items you attempted to export were documents. There is currently no support for exporting Documents from 1Password. So apparently, it exports pems. That's great. It doesn't export most attachments. edit: This is apparently new behavior in 1password8. If you have upgraded to the very latest version, the .1PUX export do…

I'm sorry that you think just because I only chose to show one file type that it only exported one file type unzip -l 1PasswordExport-ILESALYKVFDNJH3K24FEO3QRHM-20220611-220354.1pux | grep files/ | grep -Eo '\.[^.]+' | sort | uniq -c 3 .2019-10-31 1 .4742E0C72E589FA7 5 .B5CA9C4DAF6FA034 1 .asc 2 .btskey 8 .cer 4 .certSigningRequest 11 .com 5 .gmail 6 .gpg 6 .hopperLicense 1 .io 2 .jpg 7 .json 1 .keybase 1 .onepasswor…

See my edit. This is new in 1password8. Previous exports did not include them in any export format, meaning if you ever had to resort to loading a backup you’d be surprised that your attachments were gone.

Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups

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Post by mdaniel »

foobiekr wrote: post #124
mdaniel wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry that you think just because I only chose to show one file type that it only exported one file type unzip -l 1PasswordExport-ILESALYKVFDNJH3K24FEO3QRHM-20220611-220354.1pux | grep files/ | grep -Eo '\.[^.]+' | sort | uniq -c 3 .2019-10-31 1 .4742E0C72E589FA7 5 .B5CA9C4DAF6FA034 1 .asc 2 .btskey 8 .cer 4 .certSigningRequest 11 .com 5 .gmail 6 .gpg 6 .hopperLicense 1 .io 2 .jpg 7 .json 1 .keybase 1 .onepasswor…

See my edit. This is new in 1password8. Previous exports did not include them in any export format, meaning if you ever had to resort to loading a backup you’d be surprised that your attachments were gone.

https://github.com/juanii/OnePIF/blob/0.5.2/OnePIF/Records/I... and https://github.com/polettix/App-OnePif/blob/0.002/lib/App/On... shows that 1pif does export attachments, confirmed by my trying an export locally with a copy of 1P7 for Mac I had handy

This situation seems to contradict my previous assertion that AgileBits does a good job of documenting their file formats since I was unable to find the 1pif spec on their site

Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

aceazzameen wrote: post #35

I recently switched from LastPass to Bitwarden, and LastPass has the same issue. I had to manually save all my attachments and upload them into their proper place on Bitwarden. It was frustrating, but also not a big deal in my case. Worse things have happened. I wholeheartedly agree that these companies should have a warning that attachments won't export. Because I almost forgot about them.

Is there any easy way to identify all the entries with an attachment on lastpass? I was planning to switch to bitwarden, but attachments have been my major concern.

How did you do it?

Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups

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Post by mdaniel »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #126
aceazzameen wrote: post #35

I recently switched from LastPass to Bitwarden, and LastPass has the same issue. I had to manually save all my attachments and upload them into their proper place on Bitwarden. It was frustrating, but also not a big deal in my case. Worse things have happened. I wholeheartedly agree that these companies should have a warning that attachments won't export. Because I almost forgot about them.

Is there any easy way to identify all the entries with an attachment on lastpass? I was planning to switch to bitwarden, but attachments have been my major concern. How did you do it?

Their CLI seems to support showing attachments: https://github.com/lastpass/lastpass-cli/blob/8767b5e53192ad...
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