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The cooks and gas stoves feels a lot like the programmer / gamer with mechanical keyboards debate. There is really _no_ advantage to mechanical keyboards but almost everyone picks them and insists membrane keyboards are unusable. It doesn't matter what the facts are, its just a personal preference thing at that point.
There's a massive advantage to steady heat though. Electric turns on and off and induction is a little weird because the pan is the heating element, easy to get too hot. Seriously, find me a chef who prefers electric and I'll eat my shoe.
Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
By bean counters you mean environmentalist / climate activists convincing politicians ? A common meaning of bean counters - who only cares about money - would never do that. And if you think general populace in the first world countries will suffer through consistent blackout, I think you are utterly and completely mistaken.
Do you read anything, like, at all? Finance plays a _huge_ role in the climate change machinery. Carbon credits, ESG, regulations and more. Thems the bean counters.
Your original assertion:
> the bean counters force everyone to only use electricity for energy.
In carbon credit or esg or other regulations, finance / bean counters serve a means to the end, not the primary motive. Thus, I am disagreeing with this sentence, since bean counters are not who would be the primary movers to make this happen, but rather just an accessory / mean to the end. I.e. bean counters of a typical meaning would generally oppose such.
> Do you read anything, like, at all?
You may want to read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html if you haven't yet. For what it's worth, I like economics and so do read, and I consider myself a proponent of the carbon tax.
Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)
#123Gas stoves are an anachronism anyway; good riddance to them. There has been no better time for electric-only cooking. Air fryers are FAR more energy efficient than ovens, and also cook faster. Sous-vide cookers are cheap and can cook certain dishes to perfection every time. Instant pot style pressure cookers cover most of the rest. And everyone already knows the convenience of microwave ovens. Unless you're cooking a…
Would you use a microwave, a sous vide apparatus, or an air fryer to make a Chinese-style stir fry? How about an omelet?
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#124My wife and I have allergies and are poor sleepers, as a result I religiously monitor air quality in several points in the home in order to manage the air. I find CO2 ppm over 1000 provides for headaches and poor sleep. Having a modern well sealed home means you rely a lot on an HRV to exchange the air, but sometimes you need to open the windows. After all the monitoring for years I can attest that the gas cooktop ha…
Are you putting in a fresh air ventilation system (ERV) in your new house?
Yup. It’s require by code. They’re usually installed at such low CFM that they don’t help a lot against short term blips from cooking though.
Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)
#125My wife and I have allergies and are poor sleepers, as a result I religiously monitor air quality in several points in the home in order to manage the air. I find CO2 ppm over 1000 provides for headaches and poor sleep. Having a modern well sealed home means you rely a lot on an HRV to exchange the air, but sometimes you need to open the windows. After all the monitoring for years I can attest that the gas cooktop ha…
do you have a comparison of air quality in your home when cooking using a non-gas stove?
Yes. I have a portable induction plate we use for things like hot pot. I don’t have an apples to apples comparison though. The cooking itself doesn’t influence co2 though it does spike pm2.
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Why did pipes freeze with furnace fan on generator ?
Poor construction of pipes in exterior walls with degraded insulation.
>Poor construction of pipes
I thought it was more about lack of heat + insulation what about a pipe (absent other causes) makes it inherently more prone to freezing?
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
How are you heating your home? Most methane furnace designs use electric blowers to actually get the heat into the home (at least in North America).
The power needed to run a small fan is a far cry from what is needed to power a stove and the rest of a household. Battery, generator or even manual power would be sufficient.
>The power needed to run a small fan is a far cry from what is needed to power a stove
Orders of magnitude, I used to have an all electric apartment, using a fan versus AC was a 25 dollar difference or more. I used to do the math, and nursing an iced tea down the road during the hottest four hours of the day, some days, could pay for itself, but that was before the rents skyrocketed as scores of cost indifferent international students moved in just as I was moving out.
(Last I was in the town I'm referencing, it had gone from 500ish walkable to campus to more like 1K and littered with those damn scooters.)
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Microwaves can vent if you hook up its vent to a duct, cheap construction doesn't do that if they can get away with it.
Yes and no, while I suppose you could technically attach a vent to the top half of the microwave and route it outside the upper vents are absolutely not designed for that and you would have the most awkward ugly installation that blocks your upper cabinet doors. So yes the reason for these units is 100% penny pinching and cheap construction but better construction alone won’t fix the problems with these microwaves.
"you would have the most awkward ugly installation that blocks your upper cabinet doors"
No, you route it through the cabinet and if you don't want it to look ugly then you build a chase around it. I usually don't since the chase takes up more room, and no one really cares as it's in the cabinet.
And yes they are designed for venting outside, that's what these are for: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Master-Flow-3-1-4-in-x-10-in-x-7...
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Poor construction of pipes in exterior walls with degraded insulation.
>Poor construction of pipes I thought it was more about lack of heat + insulation what about a pipe (absent other causes) makes it inherently more prone to freezing?
Did you miss this part?
> in exterior walls with degraded insulation.
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If an off the shelf kettle is popping a circuit breaker in your house (absent some other load on the circuit), there’s a reasonable chance that’s a fire waiting to happen in a faulty wiring connection somewhere.
Many cheap older apartment in Japan has poor 30A/100V power contract. Even the equipment is fine, 12A electric kettle may cause circuit braker down if they use other electronics.
Yeah, if you exceed the total load, then obviously the breaker is going to trip (that's why I added the "absent other loads" qualifier)