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Is it? If this easily offended demographic were really so big the execs at Netflix are not so stupid to alienate them. The more mundane reason is this demographic is very tiny though they may be very vocal.

It’s vocal, for sure, but it’s not that tiny. You can’t simply dismiss the concerns of 10-30% (+ allies) of your potential audience.

Who is this 10-30%? There aren't that many trans people. Who are you referring to?

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I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

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I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

Are there people passing laws to fuck with people with bipolar disorder? Are there people telling you that you’re incorrect or even mentally ill because you identify as a recovering alcoholic?

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder. Wanting something to be different doesn’t actually make it different.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dyspho...

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As if Netflix is not filled with woke propaganda already... Note: Expect sentiment downvotes in HN

Some examples? And could you please define “woke propaganda”? Asking because the term is used to mischaracterize a broad range of views by, ironically, large scale propaganda / fear mongering outlets.

Snowpiercer (series): Gave up after the main plot focused on maintaining a lie, not discovering a truth (conventional screenwriting).

Other examples: https://www.reddit.com/r/netflix/comments/pwp3t4/im_tired_of...

Eventually got tired of Netflix's money cow strategy by sacrificing quality - buying original ideas and ruining them with more seasons for the sake of engagement: Designated Survivor, Money Heist, etc. Piggybacking on categories that rate higher on IMDB: Korean copycats, cheap documentaries, reality shows.

They know how to cater to public sentiment because biased reviews lead to higher ratings, hoping the brainwashing is not apparent - recent drop in subscribers proves them wrong.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

#125

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

> I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists.

You say you're part of several vulnerable populations, but you don't ask the world to "accommodate" you - but the complains trans people have about Chappelle are not about 'making their lives easier.'

Where transphobia (or any prejudicial viewpoint) comes into play is refusing to take vulnerable populations' viewpoints seriously. When trans people point out that they are at much greater risk of violence and also point out studies on how rhetoric contributes to dehumanization promotes violence - you need to take the idea that this isn't "what comedians do" because the impact of saying things about different groups will be different.

Transphobia isn't "disagreeing with trans people" - in this case it's not taking peoples' views seriously because they are trans. When you say "I have problems too but I don't bother people about it" - you suggest that your problems are similar to trans peoples'. It is explictly illegal to discriminate against you for your mental health conditions, but trans people have far fewer protections[1]. Considering that Texas just recently criminalized being trans under the age of 18, I would really ask you to consider if that view is correct and how it makes you look to say it.

Edit: I got a little ramble-y - in general: oppression is possible when vulnerable populations' descriptions of why and how they are treated worse are not taken seriously. People in vulnerable populations can be wrong (like all of us!) - but in order to point that out in a way that doesn't promote oppression you have to start your disagreement from a point where what you are disagreeing with is a position that the vulnerable population agrees they hold.

[1] https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/depression-ptsd-other-men...

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

The main point being raised by trans activists is "please let us live our lives and not be horrible to us". There's really not a whole lot more to it than that. So if somebody's "pushing back" on that, I think it's pretty fair to call them transphobic.

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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there people passing laws to fuck with people with bipolar disorder? Are there people telling you that you’re incorrect or even mentally ill because you identify as a recovering alcoholic?

is Alcoholism a mental illness - https://www.portstluciehospitalinc.com/ufaqs/is-alcoholism-a... Yes. According to the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), alcoholism, or alcohol use disorder (AUD), is a diagnosable mental illness.

The DSM is a book full of things that (a particular group of) academic doctors think should be considered to be illnesses. It's previously included homosexuality and "gender identity disorder" (transgenderism).

It's a not a bad source, obviously, but being in a book does not make things diseases or not.

That said, in my (medical) opinion, alcoholism and other addictions are much better to be considered (and treated) as diseases.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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We've had recovering-alcoholic presidents (USA), but it'd be very difficult to see a trans president anytime soon. The intensity of ostracization is not at the same level. (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#Alcohol_abuse )

> it'd be very difficult to see a trans president anytime soon. People would have said the same thing about the likelihood of having a gay president 15-20 years ago. Instead, we had an openly gay and married presidential candidate, Pete Buttigieg, do quite well in the last election with his homosexuality not being a major point of the conversation. The amount of progress on gay rights and the public's perspective on…

I disagree. In particular, there is not a gay president. How did Pete Buttigieg do well? He dropped out, ranking behind Biden and Sanders. In other words, he was supported by but a fringe group. Just him running means nothing.

It will be a while before a trans president is a realistic prospect. The U.S. have yet to elect a female leader of the country 40 years after that was a thing in the UK, and 20 years after Germany. The U.S. now have an openly gay secretary of transportation, hardly a key position in the administration. Germany had their openly gay vice-chancellor and secretary of state a decade ago.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

The main point being raised by trans activists is "please let us live our lives and not be horrible to us". There's really not a whole lot more to it than that. So if somebody's "pushing back" on that, I think it's pretty fair to call them transphobic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy
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