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Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by baq »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #26
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #12

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Do they leave them all the time because of a return-to-office policy?

Probably not. I really doubt that most people would give up a job in a satisfying office environment with people they truly enjoy working with on a product/project they are excited to work on everyday simply because of they are told they have to go in and meet those people they really groove with three times a week.

some people have a life outside of the office and found that the commute takes a very large toll on that. they didn't know previously, but now have two years of experience that they'll never forget.

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Post by mumblemumble »

daenz wrote: post #48
supernova87a wrote: post #25

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Let's just say that is it correct that he is still known for his 2014 GAN work.

It must be difficult to repeat the success of a once-in-a-lifetime finding.

I didn't take it to mean that, exactly. GANs are a very impressive trick. But their social cachet is not, as far as I'm aware, in proportion to people's success at using them for practical applications that generate revenue. So the implication might be, "Don't expect a brain drain in Apple's GAN department to have a significant impact on their business fortunes."

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Post by goldenkey »

hooande wrote: post #77
zasdffaa wrote: post #64

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I'm one of those misfits/troublemakers/etc. I've done my life mostly on my terms, and I've had it really tough. Conformists generally get it much easier. I'm all for more independent thought and fuck-you-ness but never forget that for most people that comes at a high price, so take off the rose-tinted specs.

here's to you, good luck in your journey. make it worth it "If you're going to try, go all the way. Otherwise, don't even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives and maybe even your mind. It could mean not eating for three or four days. It could mean freezing on a park bench. It could mean jail. It could mean derision. It could mean mockery--isolation. Isolation is the gift. All the others are a t…

Glorious, glorious loneliness...good one. Even introverts know that being alone sucks. Medical studies show a correlation between poorer health and loneliness.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by imustbeevil »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #99
smackeyacky wrote: post #93

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This guy is doing machine learning though. All he needs is an internet connection. I understand the idea that hardware WFH is going to be a no-go, but software? We already had the revolutionary moment where the internet is everywhere.

That's not established without knowing if they're working on neural engine hardware, for example.

We can probably infer from the fact that they've been remote for 2 years that it is possible to do their job remotely.

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Post by Aeolun »

zasdffaa wrote: post #95
hooande wrote: post #77

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here's to you, good luck in your journey. make it worth it "If you're going to try, go all the way. Otherwise, don't even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives and maybe even your mind. It could mean not eating for three or four days. It could mean freezing on a park bench. It could mean jail. It could mean derision. It could mean mockery--isolation. Isolation is the gift. All the others are a t…

I don't know if it's worth it. It's the way I am and I seem to have as much choice over it as ivy chooses growing up a wall. I've never been hungry by choice and I've always had a roof over my head, and I'm grateful for both of those things, but let's look at something I do know: "..could mean losing ... maybe even your mind" Yeah, BTDT. A lifetime of mental health problems culminating in a complete ... I dunno, brea…

> and has no redeeming value

Hmm, the one redeeming value of my anxiety (and the accompanying fear of imminent death) is that it makes it much easier to contemplate things I wouldn’t otherwise contemplate.

I’d still rather do without that, but I guess it’s interesting enough I can call it redeeming?

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Post by Johanx64 »

mattkevan wrote: post #74
paulcole wrote: post #55

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A couple contenders off the top of my head: 1. Defending pseudoscience (as long as it’s related to nutrition and exercise) 2. Disgust with “marketing people” and anyone with an MBA 3. Hating “woke” culture 4. Justifying piracy

5. Decrying any attempt at not just stuffing every feature on the screen as dumbing down and wasting space. 6. The general decline of macOS with every new release. It’ll be locked down and turned into iOS any day now, just you wait.

I can't think of the last time I've seen an app even remotely cluttered where calls for simplification/decluttering were called for (and the changes made sense)

While the opposite, dumbing down and minimalism for it's own sake is a way more common occurrence (think: not showing MB/s when copying/downloading files, etc)

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by otterley »

thr0wawayf00 wrote: post #28

Good for him. These companies touting their solutions for creating a more connected world can't have it both ways. Apple was able to ship the M1 and roll out new iterations of many other offerings since the pandemic hit. They're just fine. Apple didn't collapse since the pandemic hit, and the flexibility offered by remote work is far more valuable to lots of people than the loss of in-person collaboration opportuniti…

It takes years to design and ship new silicon. For all we know, the M1 was taped out just before COVID hit and people started working from home.

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Post by Godel_unicode »

in_cahoots wrote: post #90
prirun wrote: post #72

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> You have much more bargaining power about your work conditions as an organized union. You also give away your power as an individual to those running the union.

What power do you have as an individual in a company? Other than quitting, your leverage is extremely limited.

The problem with this question is there are people, like me, for whom the answer is "a lot". I have repeatedly gotten my employer to do things for me that they would not have done on their own. They need me more than I need them, and we both know it.

This is also by the way the main dissenting opinion in the recent Amazon union vote. There were several people who were interviewed by the economist as voting no, who said that they'd never had a bad interaction with HR and had gotten everything that they asked for.

This is not the one-sided issue that pro-union activists act like it is, and that level of ignorance is what is holding them back.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by mmmmkay »

alistairSH wrote: post #94
dimtion wrote: post #21

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Amazon WFH policy is still flexible though. For example, in my team the current policy is to work wherever we feel the most productive and happiest. You could have potentially moved within the company if that was only decision factor.

Maybe? I recently interviewed and nobody could tell me what the policy would be in a few months. “It’s WFH today, but that’ll probably change. And you can always take our bus from your local AWS office to the office where the rest of the team may or may not be because we don’t know what our policy will be.” I’d expect a company of Amazon’s size and stature to have a better plan than “whatever your VP wants this week.…

exactly this. I'd been at Amazon for 5 years, so I know how quickly these things can change and I wasn't about to get caught in the crossfires.

Oh, that and I doubled my comp leaving ;)

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