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Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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The title may, just may, not be intended to be taken literally.

How should I take it? I failed to think about any interpretation other than being clickbait (by looking contrarian and exaggerated, withou the text corroborating this take). What is your interpretation of the title?

When someone tells me I’m the best cook ever, I interpret that as hyperbole for fun.

Similarly with this headline.

Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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This type of thing is increasing on YouTube too and rather than fast forward until I get to the meat of the video, I just stop and move on. I get that they're trying to fluff up a small bit of content into something larger for increased revenue but I've gotten to my breaking point in my willingness to tolerate such games. Hopefully others get to that point too and this type of behavior starts having negative returns.

I'll never get used to lectures where first the most minor person says how fantastic people are that follow, then the mid level person adds their two cents about how cool the following people are, followed by the most senior person singing the praises of the lecturer followed by the lecturer who is required to say how he or she doesn't deserve any of that praise but would be happy still if you bought their book. The…

It is part of the ancient tradition of persuasion that the Greeks used and appropriated by many other cultures because it seemed to work well:

Ethos, pathos, logos.

What you were enduring was the ethos part, where other people tout the credentials of the speaker so that you will be more likely to accept the The following propaganda.

Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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> I once told a friend that there are a lot of books I enjoyed as one enjoys a piece of candy After 8 paragraphs of this sort of thing we get to the book The Tim Tebow CFL Chronicles follows the adventures of a fictionalized version of Tim Tebow who, brokenhearted over his inability to make it as an NFL quarterback, arrives in Toronto to join the Argonauts What school of writing is teaching writers to bury the lede i…

Hopefully a popular school that turns out lots of writers! I read a lot of book reviews and this was much more enjoyable than 99% of them.

Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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> I once told a friend that there are a lot of books I enjoyed as one enjoys a piece of candy After 8 paragraphs of this sort of thing we get to the book The Tim Tebow CFL Chronicles follows the adventures of a fictionalized version of Tim Tebow who, brokenhearted over his inability to make it as an NFL quarterback, arrives in Toronto to join the Argonauts What school of writing is teaching writers to bury the lede i…

The one that teaches you that your article doesn't get impressions if readers don't scroll through it. That is, you don't get paid for writing well. Thanks, Capitalism!

The only way this author gets paid is if you subscribe to his substack. Impressions mean nothing. I think it was very creative and well written.

Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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The title may, just may, not be intended to be taken literally.

not be intended to be taken literally In this case, that still makes it indistinguishable from clickbait.

He posted it on his own blog. That it feels like click bait is the responsibility of the person who submitted it to hacker news.

Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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Right? Not everything is a dry research paper. I will never understand the penchant for so many HN users to be such incredible, over-the-top pedantic sticks-in-the-mud when it comes to titles.

Hyperbole begets more hyperbole to combat the earlier hyperbole. Where does it end?

It never ends, which is why the world is filled with hyperbole beyond all possibility of recovering and no one can communicate at all.

Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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Jon Bois is remarkable. I never would have imagined that my wife could watch 20m youtube videos on sports statistics trivia but she would get excited when a new Jon Bois video was uploaded! I never knew he wrote fiction too.

I agree completely. Jon, if you're reading this, thank you.

He, and all of Secret Base, have deepened my love of sports in just strange and amazing ways. I also never thought that I would honestly look forward to hour long episodes of 80's power-point-like graphics with bad jazz on the statistical careers of old ballplayers.

The Monte-Carlo simulations he does are just somehow perfect for me. And I have no idea why.

The episode on Barry Bonds playing his whole career with a holographic bat is a tour-de-force on how to approach statistics and simulations in a way middle-schoolers can get on broad with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwMfT2cZGHg

It's like public access television locked a savant into an library coding camp basement with outdated software and gave him carte blanche to broadcast his cavernous mind to retirement homes at 2pm on a Sunday.

It's so strange, deep, and wonderful.

"Astronauts don't bring their wallets"

Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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I'll never get used to lectures where first the most minor person says how fantastic people are that follow, then the mid level person adds their two cents about how cool the following people are, followed by the most senior person singing the praises of the lecturer followed by the lecturer who is required to say how he or she doesn't deserve any of that praise but would be happy still if you bought their book. The…

It is part of the ancient tradition of persuasion that the Greeks used and appropriated by many other cultures because it seemed to work well: Ethos, pathos, logos. What you were enduring was the ethos part, where other people tout the credentials of the speaker so that you will be more likely to accept the The following propaganda.

That explains my instinct to skip to the speaker so I can listen without prejudice. I only look people up after they say something interesting so I can see what kind of axe they have to grind before fully accepting what they say. Thanks for the explanation.

Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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> I once told a friend that there are a lot of books I enjoyed as one enjoys a piece of candy After 8 paragraphs of this sort of thing we get to the book The Tim Tebow CFL Chronicles follows the adventures of a fictionalized version of Tim Tebow who, brokenhearted over his inability to make it as an NFL quarterback, arrives in Toronto to join the Argonauts What school of writing is teaching writers to bury the lede i…

I thought the same thing.

I think it started with the recipe writers and caught on from there.

Re: Nobody will admit the best novel of our generation is about football

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Right? Not everything is a dry research paper. I will never understand the penchant for so many HN users to be such incredible, over-the-top pedantic sticks-in-the-mud when it comes to titles.

I took offense to your comment. I found the title a complete clickbait. I couldn’t find any humor in it that would make me think otherwise. The content of the text is completely unrelated to any part of the title. And I don’t think I am pedantic.

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