The silenced deaths of the Shanghai 2022 lockdown

Post by lambdaba » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 10:33 PM UTC

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #118

lambdaba wrote: post #113

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Well, the US does top the world in obesity and other comorbidities that increase frailty. I'm pretty confident in stating that the average Chinese has overall better immune system function. On a related note I've just learned that one of the reasons they are more affected by the lockdowns is that the culture much prefers fresh food. And no, there was no way most or any Western nations could have managed lockdowns of…

> I'm pretty confident in stating that the average Chinese has overall better immune system function. I would disagree with this, especially in Southern China in the winter. The lack of indoor heating has a huge impact on your immune system, to the point that it is extremely easy to get sick. There is a reason a bunch of old people die in Hong Kong whenever the temperature drops below 5C, which is much more developed…

Post by nomel » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 10:34 PM UTC

extheat wrote: post #59

sva_ wrote: post #36

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I find it fairly amusing that people who believe in the "lableak-hypothesis" seem to usually also be in the camp of people who don't think the virus is too bad. If the virus really came from the lab, then presumably the Chinese know more about its (long term) effects than the rest of us. And looking at the fact, that they have this zero COVID policy, that should absolutely terrify anyone believing in the aforemention…

> then presumably the Chinese know more about its (long term) effects than the rest of us Not necessarily true. The lab in question has been known to house coronavirus variants and done bat research. SARS-cov-2 isn't the first coronavirus out of China, remember SARS-cov-1. This is not in dispute. What was in dispute is if it leaked from there or not, or spread naturally outside human error. The proximity of the lab t…

Post by munk-a » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 10:35 PM UTC

qiskit wrote: post #84

dougmwne wrote: post #21

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Thank you for your take on this. My reaction is that you are of course right that this is not affecting everyone equally. Certainly the CCP is not starving out all 26 million people in Shanghai. But I think this is the exact fear most of us have of authoritarian governments, that minority voices get silenced or worse and that justice is not equally distributed.

> But I think this is the exact fear most of us have of authoritarian governments, that minority voices get silenced or worse and that justice is not equally distributed. How is that an authoritarian government problem? You do realize that minority voices get silenced in every government and justice is nowhere equally distributed. Unless you are asserting the US, Canada, Australia, etc are/were authoritarian governme…

Post by Animats » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 10:36 PM UTC

Post by wonnage » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 10:37 PM UTC

jacktribe wrote: post #102

I've been trying to understand CCP's reasoning for these draconian measures. Even if you haven't seen the Twitter videos showing bags of live cats and dogs being being beaten to death with sticks, the children separated from their parents, the alarms on the doors, the economic numbers, you can tell that this does't make any sense. Some theories: - Strip people of absolutely all rights, make them feel helpless. Later…