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Steve Jobs Book Excerpt: Why he wore the black mock turtleneck uniform

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Re: Steve Jobs Book Excerpt: Why he wore the black mock turtleneck uniform

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It's the same rationale as the fashion designer Michael Kors and why he's been wearing the same black shirt, black blazer and dark jeans for years - to become "post-fashion" and have his own signature style that he doesn't have to think about and coordinate every day. And much like Jobs, he used to dress like a hippie flower child early in his career and he realized sometime later how dated that looked, so he needed…

There's no such thing as a timeless look. The only look I can think of going back to as late as the 60s - only 50 years - that could reasonably be claimed to be "timeless" is the business suit - and even that is becoming to look... unsuitable in an increasing number of settings.

An ordinary black suit, white shirt, black tie and black pants would be about ordinary from 1830 onwards. See http://lecostumeatraverslessiecles.chez-alice.fr/Costumes/XI...

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Very odd. I can find no reference to Sony's uniform having been designed by Issey Miyake, even in Japanese, other than this one anecdote. Edit: There is some allusion to it, yet no direct reference .. However, it seems he was generally interested in using Japanese fabrics to make clothes for workers in the 1970s, so it is definitely possible.

Actually, googling "三宅一生 ソニー" returns a Sony time capsule: ソニーのユニフォームは何回かデザイン変わってますけど、1981年に採用が決まった最後のユニフォームはなんと三宅一生氏のデザインですよ。 Translation: The design for the Sony uniform has changed several times, but the last uniform for the hiring of 1981 was a design of Issey Miyake. Ref: http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/History/capsule... Edit: there's an English version here http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/CorporateIn…

What about any actual pictures of the designs?

Re: Steve Jobs Book Excerpt: Why he wore the black mock turtleneck uniform

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with taste

Not necessarily >Make the new typeface a cross between Comic Sans and Papyrus!

Taste does not necessarily mean perfect taste, Jobs was still human after all.

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The idea of imposing a standard uniform or wearing the same thing everyday can be viewed as a form of imposing conformity over individuality (mostly the uniform thing, and less the personal style thing). That said, for a US company (especially at that time), such thinking was definitely 'outside the box,' so it could also be viewed as being consistent with the 'Think Different' slogan.

In Jobs's case, I think it had more to do with efficiency. I believe Einstein also wore the same outfit every day, saying each person had a finite amount of time for thought, and he didn't want to waste it picking out clothes.

Einstein only wore identical suits to occasions requiring suits. For the rest of it, he was laid back.

Maybe Jobs will also be included in this account of famous people with Asperger's syndrome.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC539373/

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That's the answer. At some point in our career, most of us end up wearing some kind of "uniform." I used to work for a engineering consulting firm. Kevin, the star engineer would wear polo shirts, blue jeans, and sneakers. Everyone one else at his level and above wore suit and tie. One day the new boss told Kevin that he needed to wear a button down shirt, suit and tie to meet with the client. Kevin told him "You can…

Well, Sorry at some places. Making it rain won't change anything. Heck, you may make it storm, or cause a earth quake to to happen or even a make Volcano to explode. Some workplaces are so strict about dress codes, they just won't change for any reason. Especially large corporate bureaucracies. They have a crazy like beliefs that dressing in some way will help their business more than actual work will. And going agai…

Those are typically the places you don't ever want to work at.

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I've read a number of times references to the sweaters coming from St. Croix, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Croix_(clothing) http://www.stcroixshop.com/stcroix/default.asp?s_id=0&#38 ; An interesting mystery! A lifetime's supply of Issey Miyake would surely obviate the need to by them from this random shop, right? Am I missing something? For what it's worth, I hope they come from Miyake, who's a geniu…

Unless I've missed it, nowhere on their shop page does it say that Jobs wore their turtlenecks, merely that he was a "fan" of theirs, and the Wikipedia fact is uncited (now marked as such).

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The point of this article isn't the damned turtleneck -- the lesson to learn is that Jobs was best friends with Issey Miyake. Think about that for a minute: How many other folks who work in tech in the valley have any friends who even work in fashion design? Add to that that this is the same guy who hired Paul Rand the grandfather of American graphic design to come up with the logo for NeXT. This is also the same man…

Also Norman Foster for Apple's new HQs.

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On a more practical note but along a related thread, a couple of years ago I threw out all of my socks and bought a stack of the exact same plain black socks. Now I never have to worry about matching socks, when a hole appears I just throw that sock out, when I'm getting low on socks I throw out the lot and buy them new.

Someone wrote a businessplan around you and cleaned up nicely, check out blacksocks.com and the 'sockscription': http://www.blacksocks.com/g3.cms/lang/us/s_page/79110/s_name...

Heh, except they decided to charge per-sock what I like to pay per-pack.
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