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The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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post #69

Best thing I ever did was install Nitter redirect. Even though Nitter breaks every once in a while, it makes Twitter usable (assuming you don't mind read-only interaction). https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nitter-redirect/mo... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nitter-redire...

> assuming you don't mind read-only interaction

That can be framed as a feature.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#122
post #107
post #69

Best thing I ever did was install Nitter redirect. Even though Nitter breaks every once in a while, it makes Twitter usable (assuming you don't mind read-only interaction). https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nitter-redirect/mo... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nitter-redire...

For what is worth, I'd much rather just create an account than install an extension (especially since sometimes one of my many extensions ends up slowing the whole browser and I have to hunt which one is it). It's not like I don't have thousands of accounts to random sites anyway and it typically takes less time than confirming if an extension is good.

Recently, I attempted to create one --- and then quickly NOPE'd back out when it asked for a phone number.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#123
post #51

Twitter is the homeless encampment of social networks. Sometimes I’ll click the wrong link and end up there. It’s uncomfortable.. lots of people screaming and spreading their excrement around.. I just avoid eye contact, keep quiet and close the tab as quickly as possible.

You seem to have a lot of biases about large swaths of people

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Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Working around this with creative misspellings or euphemisms makes me feel like a kid trying to swear on Club Penguin or something. It's been bizarre watching the increasing prevalence of these types of behaviors the last few years. There was a period of time when I remember seeing a number of consumer tech youtubers discussing supply chain issues but having to avoid using the words "COVID" or "pandemic" for fear o…

"Un-alive" comes from a Marvel animated cartoon series called Ultimate Spider-Man , in which Spider-Man teams up with Deadpool, who expresses his intent to "un-alive" a certain villain. To which Spidey replies, shocked, "You mean KILL him?!" Deadpool's circumlocution around killing and death is a parody of similar linguistic gymnastics from 1980s cartoons, which were considered "for children" and so addressing death…

We also have "doubleplusungood", from the famous Orwell classic; but that's not a term I've seen used to circumvent censorship yet.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#125

The problem is even when you sign up, they restrict your account for commenting or liking something!! Now they want your phone number!!! Fuck you Agorwawol!! I hope this musk do something about it, although I doubt it!! They are all scumbags!!

They ask for a phone number even for mere read-only access.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#126

Twitter baffles me. I don't understand why anyone uses it since its UI (at least for readers) is so terrible. People split long posts into dozens of tweets because of the 288 char limit, or else post images of printed pages, instead of using a blogging platform. You get a megabyte of JS bloat along with your 288 character tweet. I joke that the main purpose of 5G mobile is so they can increase the bloat to 10MB inste…

You get a megabyte of JS bloat along with your 288 character tweet.

For a very long time, if you went to mobile.twitter.com and set your User-Agent to that of some old browser, you'd get a sane plain-HTML version. Apparently you can still get plain HTML if you use Googlebot instead:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25464280

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#127

One of the things that has always confused me about twitter is that it seems to be offering a threaded conversation model, yet it tries to "flatten" the conversation and render things in a linear timeline. I've always struggled to understand the full context of the tweet I'm reading (that is, where is this tweet in the full conversation?). Do others also struggle with this? Am I just Doing It Wrong?

Twitter is terrible as a social platform. It's a great platform to get quick news about something. Obviously platforms like these thrive during eventful times. Just look at who is posting about the Ukraine/Russia war. But it's not about dialogue or threads. It's only consumption.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#128
post #41

One of the things that has always confused me about twitter is that it seems to be offering a threaded conversation model, yet it tries to "flatten" the conversation and render things in a linear timeline. I've always struggled to understand the full context of the tweet I'm reading (that is, where is this tweet in the full conversation?). Do others also struggle with this? Am I just Doing It Wrong?

There are so many things that make it an unpleasant ordeal. Having to hit 'see more replies' over and over. Having to click on individual tweets to see their replies. Pressing back and having your window reset to the top of the replies page, and now you have to click 'see more replies' all over again. Having your history completely broken somehow so pressing back doesn't even take you to the right place. etc etc

Does that work? On the occasions when I read a post on Twitter (by following a link, since I don't use it) and I press "see replies" I always get to see the same replies again.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#129

One of the things that has always confused me about twitter is that it seems to be offering a threaded conversation model, yet it tries to "flatten" the conversation and render things in a linear timeline. I've always struggled to understand the full context of the tweet I'm reading (that is, where is this tweet in the full conversation?). Do others also struggle with this? Am I just Doing It Wrong?

I spend a lot of time hiding whole comment subtrees when browsing Reddit threads, especially on mobile. I'd do that on HN too except HN's UI is completely mobile-hostile with how tiny its buttons are. I don't fault Twitter for picking the opposite default.

In small discussions where most people are interested in every detail being followed up on, HN and Reddit's style is nicer. In popular discussions where every individual message has too many replies to care about and most people don't care to see every single subthread to completion, Twitter's style is much nicer because you can just scroll without repeatedly hitting buttons to avoid getting caught in way too deep subthreads every single message.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#130

One of the things that has always confused me about twitter is that it seems to be offering a threaded conversation model, yet it tries to "flatten" the conversation and render things in a linear timeline. I've always struggled to understand the full context of the tweet I'm reading (that is, where is this tweet in the full conversation?). Do others also struggle with this? Am I just Doing It Wrong?

I spend a lot of time hiding whole comment subtrees when browsing Reddit threads, especially on mobile. I'd do that on HN too except HN's UI is completely mobile-hostile with how tiny its buttons are. I don't fault Twitter for picking the opposite default. In small discussions where most people are interested in every detail being followed up on, HN and Reddit's style is nicer. In popular discussions where every indi…

Some reddit clients have a "next top-level comment" floating button. Apollo does at least, and I thought the official client did too.
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