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Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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Windows adoption is largely driven by corporations. Most corporates align on a common policy of migration to every second major Windows release following this pattern: Windows NT 4, Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 10 With Windows 2000, Windows Vista, and Windows 11 skipped. Which is a shame as these same corporates who have fleets of Apple Mac computers normally migrate annually about 6-9 months after each major annua…

Rather a shame, as Win2k was a reasonably stable, low-bullshit release.

Windows 2000 was peak Windows UI. Explorer was a hot mess, often crashing within the first hour of a clean install, but yeah, Win2k was a fine version.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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the people who voluntarily leave telemetry "on" are probably skewing the results do they use telemetry on who disables telemetry to balance the data :P

There is no practical way of turning of telemetry completely. Since telemetry is enabled by default, I doubt the portion of users turning it off is significant. I think the bigger problem is that you just can't derive meaningful data from telemetry to make the necessary decisions for improving user experience.

Windows 10 Enterprise and group policy to disable telemetry? Agree it's not exactly "practical" though for non-business settings.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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post #114

Well, there are many issues with Windows 11. Aside from large stuff already discussed over and over again, it's the little things. Alt+Tab current selection is really hard to see. Action center is weird - sometimes it even won't open after clicking, but will pop up at a later time. Clock does not have the seconds counter anymore. Bluetooth devices cannot bee connected via Win+K anymore - it now takes four clicks to r…

Windows 95 was a complete turd. Windows 98 was pretty good.

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Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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post #114

Well, there are many issues with Windows 11. Aside from large stuff already discussed over and over again, it's the little things. Alt+Tab current selection is really hard to see. Action center is weird - sometimes it even won't open after clicking, but will pop up at a later time. Clock does not have the seconds counter anymore. Bluetooth devices cannot bee connected via Win+K anymore - it now takes four clicks to r…

Windows 95 was a complete turd. Windows 98 was pretty good.

As coming from windows 3.11, at the age of 16, Windows 95 has a very special place in my heart. So I might be a little nostalgic.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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I'd really like to know how much Microsoft's behavior with recent Windows versions pays off. Specifically bundling lots of unwanted apps, forcing Edge and Defender down people's throats, removing basic UI customization features, etc. The fact that they are still doing this today suggests that they get something out of these decisions. Or at least they think so. I can only imagine that the part of customers being alie…

Windows defender is better than almost evrything out there. Edge is as annoying as chrome or safari is on their respective os’s and no basic ui stuff has really been removed that tons of freeware and addons didn’t allow one to customize and they’re releasing a new update to continue to refine the UX/UI

Edge is definitely worse, I was making an Amazon purchase on Edge and it started popping up offers for the same product. The last thing I want is my browser trying to insert itself into my transactions.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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post #114

Well, there are many issues with Windows 11. Aside from large stuff already discussed over and over again, it's the little things. Alt+Tab current selection is really hard to see. Action center is weird - sometimes it even won't open after clicking, but will pop up at a later time. Clock does not have the seconds counter anymore. Bluetooth devices cannot bee connected via Win+K anymore - it now takes four clicks to r…

Windows 95 was a complete turd. Windows 98 was pretty good.

Windows 95/98/Me were all bad.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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AFAIK there's no official corporate communication to that effect. The whole "windows 10 will be the last windows" thing can ultimately be traced back to something that a evangelist/dev said at a microsoft event. That didn't prevent tech blogs/media from parroting it far and wide though, so that's probably why you might have "remembered" it.

Hrm. > "Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10." That was the message from Microsoft employee Jerry Nixon, a developer evangelist speaking at the company's Ignite conference this week. So it was a Microsoft employee. But presumably not speaking ex cathedra, then.

The thing is they didn't deny it either, they were quite happy to let people think that was the case.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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Windows adoption is largely driven by corporations. Most corporates align on a common policy of migration to every second major Windows release following this pattern: Windows NT 4, Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 10 With Windows 2000, Windows Vista, and Windows 11 skipped. Which is a shame as these same corporates who have fleets of Apple Mac computers normally migrate annually about 6-9 months after each major annua…

I've never come across a corporate who's policy is to skip every other release.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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Me too. I’ve been reading comments like this since the Year of Linux first began. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3038d4/when_was_the_... Image my shock to find out Windows still has 87% market share. I’m still unhappy that they took my Sun workstation and gave me a Windows PC.

Brenda in accounting isn't going to run Ubuntu even with the cute animal names. Until that happens,there will be stacks upon stacks of windows optiplexes being sold every day. Also nobody misses sloaris. I'm going to chalk that remark up to a misfired punchline.

I, for one, genuinely miss Solaris--though when I think hard about it, I miss Sun hardware with SPARC in it more than Solaris itself.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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I'd really like to know how much Microsoft's behavior with recent Windows versions pays off. Specifically bundling lots of unwanted apps, forcing Edge and Defender down people's throats, removing basic UI customization features, etc. The fact that they are still doing this today suggests that they get something out of these decisions. Or at least they think so. I can only imagine that the part of customers being alie…

I think we keep hearing complaints but they come from a vocal minority. I use both Windows 10 and 11 daily and the issues people are describing are exaggerated most of the time. Not saying they don't exist but personally other than the task bar regressions everything else is actually a lot more polished in 11 than 10. Windows defender is pretty good and edge is a decent browser but the same way Windows annoys you to…

I somewhat agree, because as an end user all I had to do is disable the bundled apps (teams, etc) and switch the default browser to firefox. I agree with the criticism though, it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth to see all the extra prompts encouraging me to keep Edge, and the social media links (instagram, tiktok) in my start menu. But for someone who experienced bloatware, this stuff was pretty easy to remove / change. The main difference is that this "bloatware" came directly from Microsoft and not third parties.
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