Facebook is using the same firm to malign Roblox with the same strategy.
Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
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Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
#122Serious question, for those with more experience than me “in the game” running big successful companies: are dirty tactics like this (and worse) par for the course and generally expected, and it’s sort of understood that the outsiders/general public are shielded from it? Or is it actually shocking? It often seems like there’s two “worlds” operating at the same time. In one, there’s outrage and indignation at this sor…
Ya the startup I work at did some crazy shit in the founder days or so I’ve heard from the seniors. Competitive intelligence they called it.
We have had malicious litigation too and now I’m ramping up on security (cybersecurity or corposec as I call it, not network) because knowing our competitors I think it’s not a case of if there is a hostile op against us, but when.
Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
#123Quoted post unavailable.
That's not true, Facebook did not spread misinformation because Facebook decides what misinformation is
Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
#124(1) Facebook has consistently acted on a partisan basis supporting Republicans and right-wing causes as much as it can. Any normal company would have thrown Sheryl Steinberg under the bus for funding anti-semitic conspiracy theories but that kind of stuff is at the DNA core of Facebook. (2) That doesn't mean TikTok isn't toxic.
So even if that's true, every other big tech company supports left wingers and left-wing causes.
Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
How convinced are you that your opinion is coming from actions of TikTok itself and not reports of alleged actions by TikTok? The American public (and by association, a large controlling part of the digital hivemind) is very easy to sway
> very easy to sway opinion of American public Compared to what? Chinese public?
Compared to the non-average American public that might have an educated opinion about any given topic
Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not at all similar to racism, and you should not pretend corporate dehumanising is something to be expected or even logical. These demands are wrong and we are correct to talk about them as such.
Being unable to find the best candidates because you have racial prejudices or prejudices towards anyone with prior employment at the F in FAANG are both bad for business. You have a massive systematic blind spot that will make your company less competitive relative to peers because you have a personal ax to grind. I might add that prior employment at Facebook is very positively correlated with engineering talent --…
> smaller labor force you are willing to hire and a lower quality one.
The first part is true. The second is a leap, plenty of high quality talent actively chooses to not work at FB, or happens to not work there. By not selecting from the former FB pool I have not lowered the overall quality of my labor pool. I have increased the integrity standards though.
Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
#127Facebook is using the same firm to malign Roblox with the same strategy.
Would you mind speaking more to this or providing a link?
Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
#128Serious question, for those with more experience than me “in the game” running big successful companies: are dirty tactics like this (and worse) par for the course and generally expected, and it’s sort of understood that the outsiders/general public are shielded from it? Or is it actually shocking? It often seems like there’s two “worlds” operating at the same time. In one, there’s outrage and indignation at this sor…
> are dirty tactics like this (and worse) par for the course
The details make all the difference.
Apple goes on stage and posts misleading graphs about their competition multiple times per year. The latest event showed the M1 Ultra matching an RTX 3090 in performance, yet that’s nowhere close to true in anyone’s testing and the graph was deliberately misleading in dishonest ways (3090 curve was truncated before it reached peak performance).
The difference is that most people here really like Apple hardware, so they get a free pass. Most people here really dislike Facebook, so this seems like a mortal sin for a company to promote negative misleading ideas about their competitor.
Everyone markets against their competitors to some degree, even if it’s just a comparison chart on a marketing page somewhere. I’d need to see more evidence that Facebook was deliberately lying to really be concerned about this. It seems the authors are relying heavily on anti-Facebook anger to fuel this story.
Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
> - having Facebook/Meta experience on your resume starts hurting you against others who don't Why would it hurt you? They're at the forefront of technical challenges of scaling an immensely popular product and developing internal tooling. These aren't necessarily applicable everywhere, but they're incredibly valuable. If anything, I think the fact that they're working at a place where a very vocal minority of their…
Forefront of technical challenges? Are you effin' kidding me? That website that can't get its shit together for 15+ years I use it. Constantly and consistently there are tons of bugs in its behavior. Doubling comments, missing pictures, can't create photo albums, then they are created twice, site unavailable, some parts of site not working, feed not loading, videos not playing, back button almost completely broken. I…
I really dislike FB, but I can’t say I have your experience. Both mobile and desktop versions of FB worked flawlessly for me for the time that I used it, starting back in 2005 when our University was granted access.
Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok
#130Where does the Republican angle come in to it?
FTA: "The firm is one of the biggest recipients of Republican campaign spending, earning more than $237 million in 2020, according to data compiled by OpenSecrets. Its biggest payments came from national GOP congressional committees and America First Action, a pro-Trump super PAC."
I guess, but that's not massively relevant to the story, is it? It looks like they've tried to shoe-horn in a political angle.