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Re: MDN Plus

#121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

Hopefully it goes to MDN. I do wish there was a way to fund Firefox directly, but I hope that MDN plus resources are for MDN, not Firefox.

Same for me, I'd love to get a subscription for Firefox!

Re: MDN Plus

#122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

Hopefully it goes to MDN. I do wish there was a way to fund Firefox directly, but I hope that MDN plus resources are for MDN, not Firefox.

I pay for pocket subscription just for this.

Re: MDN Plus

#123

The long descriptive post ends with "We invite you to try the free trial version or sign up today for a subscription plan that’s right for you." But... no sign up button. Two of the internal links point to more info on features, which have a different menu at the top with a 'get mdn plus' button. I guess that's how you're supposed to get it? Just surprised they felt the need to avoid putting a sign up link on the blo…

Same here, took me a solid 5m to find a way to sign up. Add a link the announcement blog post and the FAQ, Mozilla.

Re: MDN Plus

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post #87

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> Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them? It’s a very common question when you give money to a non-profit, which Mozilla is.

Mozilla Foundation is non profit. Mozilla corporation is for profit. Mitchell Baker owns it all and draws a salary from the corporation according to public records. Pretty sure the foundation owns the IP etc and the corp leases it, funneling money around. Statements are public.

Mozilla corporation is fully owned by the foundation though.

Re: MDN Plus

#125
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them? It’s a very common question when you give money to a non-profit, which Mozilla is.

Mozilla Foundation is non profit. Mozilla corporation is for profit. Mitchell Baker owns it all and draws a salary from the corporation according to public records. Pretty sure the foundation owns the IP etc and the corp leases it, funneling money around. Statements are public.

While what you’re saying is factually correct, my biggest pet peeve is that Firefox is entirely owned and developed by the corporation. If I donate money to Mozilla, it ends up with the silly projects instead of the browser.

To me, this is a problem, and while it’s documented somewhere, it’s not nearly communicated well enough on their website when you’re actually making a donation. As a matter of fact, it’s sometimes even downright misleading.

As such, I don’t believe the corporate structure is a healthy one, and the organization(s) are not properly aligned in where the profit comes from, where they make the biggest impact in the world, and where the donations go to.

Re: MDN Plus

#126
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them? It’s a very common question when you give money to a non-profit, which Mozilla is.

Mozilla Foundation is non profit. Mozilla corporation is for profit. Mitchell Baker owns it all and draws a salary from the corporation according to public records. Pretty sure the foundation owns the IP etc and the corp leases it, funneling money around. Statements are public.

When you say "Mitchell Baker owns it all", you aren't claiming that Mitchell owns Mozilla Corp, are you? Mozilla Corp is owned by Mozilla Foundation, as described in the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation

Most Mozilla employees draw their salary from Mozilla Corp.

Re: MDN Plus

#127
post #28

It seems fair enough. It won't prevent anyone from accessing the actual content and it probably makes it easy to justify paying something to MDN to employers. In practice, if you are not paying: - Bookmarks can most certainly easily replace the Collections feature - you can clone the MDN repository for having the documents offline - notifications could be computed from the commit log and the subscription probably mak…

This is a fair point. I am a supporter of OGS (online-go.com) and I get the same sense of convenience benefits as perks which I could get anyway with only some minimum effort. However I do like this go server and I use it a lot, they deserve my money, and getting some perks back for my donations just feels nice. It is a way for them to say: “Hey, we appreciate your donations, have some perks”.

Re: MDN Plus

#128
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

> Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries? Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them?

I do not do business with them where I can help it

Re: MDN Plus

#129
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

> Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries? Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them?

It seemed like the person you're responding to was asking a rhetorical question that responded to the original statement ("here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is"), not directing a question at Mozilla itself.

As a response to that prompt, it's a completely legitimate question to ask: would my money actually be going where I want it to go?

Anyway, I think people do ask themselves where the money they spend goes. They do that all the time. It's the basis boycotting different businesses. They don't ask it in every case, such as when the question has been answered already, or where there isn't ongoing controversy about how money is being spent.

Re: MDN Plus

#130
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

> Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries? Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them?

Normally, no, obviously!

But this is a special case IMO -- Firefox is something people care very deeply as they view it as a crucial bastion of the free and open internet.

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