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Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by aidenn0 » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 4:09 PM UTC

jerf wrote: post #107

When I took my AI class, my professor would assign one paper a week and we had to turn in a "critique" of that paper. These papers were, of course, the seminal classics in the field, because what else would you want your intro class to be reading? I complained a bit to the professor that it was a bit silly to critique the seminal papers in the field and if you want to be sure we read it, we could just turn in a summa…

Yeah, any "critique" or "argument" assignment seems to have weird grading biases.

In my freshman Composition class we needed to pick a controversial topic and argue one side. Highest grade on that assignment went to someone who argued that smoking causes lung cancer (this was 2003). The instructor explained that it was the most convincing paper. Those who picked an actually controversial topics got the lowest grades because their arguments were less of a slam-dunk.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by marcosdumay » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 4:11 PM UTC

somat wrote: post #72

V__ wrote: post #16

> Editor’s Note: The claims in this paper have not been verified because the researchers have refused to yield their full dataset and methodology, citing “intellectual property rights,” “the sanctity of the First Amendment,” and “the Wright brothers never had to show their work.” We are publishing their paper here because they won’t stop mailing hard copies in triplicate to our homes and offices. Love it.

But... The Wright brothers did show their work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkpQAGQiv4Q https://www.loc.gov/collections/wilbur-and-orville-wright-pa...

They just took their time, and it became a joke because other people were already flying around when they came in public saying they were flying first.

Overall, an entirely irrelevant issue.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 4:16 PM UTC

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Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by hef19898 » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 4:19 PM UTC

usrbinbash wrote: post #117

hef19898 wrote: post #5

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David Lynchs version of it is vastly underrated, Villeneuve's Dune is so much better so! Really looking forward to part two!

> vastly underrated Sorry but no, it really really isn't. Just a few highlights: * Why would soldiers sent to fight on a Desert-Planet wear black, vulcanised, full body rubber Hazmat suits? * What on Earth is a "Wyrding Module" supposed to be? * What exactly is achieved by charging into battle while holding a pug on ones arm? * It says "Ornithopter" in the books, implying something vaguely animal-shaped, not a hoveri…

just speculating (usually set design isn't accounting for anything beyond "looks cool"):

- Hazmat suites can contain climate control, and the Tuareg wear dark clothing as well

- Wyrding Module: In Lynch's words: He didn't want Kung-Fu on sand dunes

- No idea what you mean, but charging into battle has since been proven to be viable tactic by the Avengers, so it has to work

- Ornithopter refers to the propulsion, like a bird, instead of a simple helicopter; I'd have to watch Lynch's Dune so to see how those actually look like in his film; Villeneuve nailed them pretty well

- Same reason why the first Enterprise under Archer used fancier screens than the ones under Kirk or Picard; IMHO Lynch borrowed a lot of his aesthetics from WW1, and the Dune universe is surprisingly low tech anyway

- The navigator: A wild guess, I always understood it as a way to show the importance of Spice and Arrakis to the Guild when they had to send one of their Navigators to talk directly to the Emperor instead of using proxies

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Post by finnh » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 4:26 PM UTC

JadeNB wrote: post #102

mcv wrote: post #100

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Subtitles frequently describe entire background conversations I can't hear when I'm watching at home. Maybe I should turn up the sound to a ridiculous level.

This was taken to a ridiculous extreme in the marvellous The Spanish Prisoner , where the whole point at the end is that you can't hear a certain conversation—but it's still subtitled!

I love that movie. Now I need to re-watch with subtitles!

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Post by nindalf » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 4:26 PM UTC

rmnclmnt wrote: post #90

nindalf wrote: post #37

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Consider editing your comment to not mention anything spoiler related. I feel the movie hits different if you’re not expecting anything. Arrival is truly a masterpiece though. I won’t forget it as long as I live.

Don't know if you have but may I recommend reading the original novel from Ted Chiang named "Story of your life"? It's a bit different from the movie but still incredibly mind bending. Also, any novel from the collection "Story of your life and others"[1] is worth reading and thinking about. Ted Chiang is an exceptional writer. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stories_of_Your_Life_and_Other...

Thanks for the recommendation. I bought this book in December, will get to it soon.

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Post by andrewflnr » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 4:39 PM UTC

hef19898 wrote: post #124

usrbinbash wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> vastly underrated Sorry but no, it really really isn't. Just a few highlights: * Why would soldiers sent to fight on a Desert-Planet wear black, vulcanised, full body rubber Hazmat suits? * What on Earth is a "Wyrding Module" supposed to be? * What exactly is achieved by charging into battle while holding a pug on ones arm? * It says "Ornithopter" in the books, implying something vaguely animal-shaped, not a hoveri…

just speculating (usually set design isn't accounting for anything beyond "looks cool"): - Hazmat suites can contain climate control, and the Tuareg wear dark clothing as well - Wyrding Module: In Lynch's words: He didn't want Kung-Fu on sand dunes - No idea what you mean, but charging into battle has since been proven to be viable tactic by the Avengers, so it has to work - Ornithopter refers to the propulsion, like…

Re: charging into battle, I think the focus of the question was the pug.

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Post by spiffytech » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 4:43 PM UTC

a_shovel wrote: post #68

When their initial theory of cough count produced a trend line that didn't really work well, with some major outliers, they introduced the implausible, ad-hoc mechanisms like the Thriller Tripler effect and the Batman effect to make it fit. This is the part that isn't just parodical silliness, but has actual applicability. This is something you might see in a bad research paper.

The best part of the Batman factor is that since it relies on data from the future it destroys the model's predictiveness!

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 4:43 PM UTC

JadeNB wrote: post #102

mcv wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Subtitles frequently describe entire background conversations I can't hear when I'm watching at home. Maybe I should turn up the sound to a ridiculous level.

This was taken to a ridiculous extreme in the marvellous The Spanish Prisoner , where the whole point at the end is that you can't hear a certain conversation—but it's still subtitled!

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Post by kevinventullo » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 5:04 PM UTC

magicalhippo wrote: post #43

eganist wrote: post #13

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That's a hot take. What didn't you like about it, specifically? Aside from the best score ever made by Hans Zimmer?

While I loved the overall production, for me the choice of actors for several of the side characters actually made it feel like a more generic Hollywood action movie. For me it had been better to pick less well-used actors than Jason Momoa, Josh Brolin, Javier Bardem etc. Just robbed it of some of the mystique I think.

Totally agree. Casting both Bardem and Brolin was particularly rough for me since my mind jumped immediately to No Country.