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i've noticed this too .. the real head-scratcher is how a solid chunk of github's db & infra folks left to join a database startup, one of them even becoming its ceo!! if they had made github db/infra super-stable before this, it would be a vote of confidence in their new company, but instead imho it is the opposite

Which one are you referring to?

my guess is:

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Re: Incident with GitHub Actions, API requests, Codespaces, Git operations, Issues

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I don't disagree with this, they could/should have transitioned already. But for one, cultures are hard/slow to change. And second, as an example, Facebook had the motto "move fast and break things" until 2014, and by that time they also were beyond the startup phase( ), so this kind of culture is not only for early days. ( ) They were founded in 2004, that's 10 years in. By that time in 2014 they had 800M+ monthly a…

Facebook is a social media app that hardly anyone (except for advertisers) pays for. GitHub is an enterprise product crucial to tons of businesses. Cultural comparisons between the two really shouldn't apply.

Aren't both companies potentially loosing money when their products don't work? The fact that it's crucial to businesses seems to be the client perspective, not the company perspective. It could also seen as critical for some businesses to advertise on Facebook. This could call for a different culture internally but I'm not convinced this is necessarily the case.

Re: Incident with GitHub Actions, API requests, Codespaces, Git operations, Issues

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It's OK to be frustrated since we rely on GitHub so much, but this is unkind. Software is complex. GitHub operates at a scale few of us work at. There are people at the other end doing their best traversing complex internal systems (organization and tech). I would argue GitHub has done more for societal good than most tech ventures, by the way.

GitHub actions has been like this for years now. Years. Years!!!! And the crazy thing is you see people on HN demanding that some one person side project/SaaS has to be at 100% uptime with multiple failovers, automatic scaling, etc. etc. There is such an emphasis on scalability on HN and yet... you just brush that all away because "software is tough." Yeah, no shit. Poor Github. They are also Microsoft now. One of th…

> And the crazy thing is you see people on HN demanding that some one person side project/SaaS has to be at 100% uptime with multiple failovers, automatic scaling, etc. etc. There is such an emphasis on scalability on HN and yet... you just brush that all away because "software is tough.

I'm not one of those people. I may have been when I was much more inexperienced.

Software is hard. Full stop. Organizational politics, engineering culture, business / tech alignment are all hard. Distributed systems are hard.

> Yeah, no shit. Poor Github. They are also Microsoft now. One of the wealthiest corporations in the entire world. And people are paying Github. This isn't Twitter fail whale we're talking about.

I may have also thought this when I was much more inexperienced. This isn't a resource problem. Even a small startup, when they start having failures due to scale from growth, it's not a money problem. Throwing money at this doesn't make it go away.

By the way, the Twitter fail whale impacted paying customers (advertisers).

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