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Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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United States has the capability to degrade or deny GPS based on location. Russia has also demonstrated the ability to spoof GPS signals. Either is a likely cause here.

The United States do not have the ability to degrade or deny a gps signal based on location unless that particular location has a physical GPS jammer. I don't see what the US would gain from disrupting civilian airtraffic navigation. Just stop with your "either is a likely cause here"-spiel.

Explain why only the "Russia did it"-spiel is allowed here.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

#122
post #3

The clear suggestion is that it is Russia doing it. Other than as an f-u, I don’t understand why they would though. If I have an effective weapon (GPS spoofer), surely I don’t want to alert the enemy to it, lest they develop defences. So eg say NATO were overreliant on GPS, incidents of spoofing like this will cause them to rethink and reduce that reliance, or harden the system.

Suggesting Russians are playing a rational game here? I think the cover has been pulled on the Russian "master strategy".. it's literally a hierarchy of terror and lies, where everyone will do whatever it takes to please the irrational autocrat. I have been spamming this lecture everywhere since the war started and again I think anyone who's still questioning the Russian operative reality should watch it: Evaluation…

I started to watch it and it was indeed interesting, till it reached the point where the presenter claimed that Khodorkovsky was jailed because he stole too much. That's just plain false, and kind'a casts doubt on how expert is this expert. He was jailed for his political stance, that he didn't want to bow down to Putin. It's true that his first sentence for various tax dodging schemes in the 90s (that many at the time were involved in). Those were likely legal, but definitely immoral.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

#123
post #51
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggesting Russians are playing a rational game here? I think the cover has been pulled on the Russian "master strategy".. it's literally a hierarchy of terror and lies, where everyone will do whatever it takes to please the irrational autocrat. I have been spamming this lecture everywhere since the war started and again I think anyone who's still questioning the Russian operative reality should watch it: Evaluation…

Russia generally acts rationally. It's just that the assumptions and axioms on top of which rationality is applied is different from the West and ― apparently ― not uncommonly delusional. This made it very hard for the West to believe what Russia was saying for years about Ukraine, for example. Further, the explanations seem to differ whether they're addressed to Russians or to other countries. Russia's own populatio…

Putin's approval rating in Russia has only increased since the war in Ukraine started. Also, Russian weaponry has only improved since the fall of the USSR. I'm not sure why you're arguing that Russia cannot do what they are currently doing.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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post #113
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggesting Russians are playing a rational game here? I think the cover has been pulled on the Russian "master strategy".. it's literally a hierarchy of terror and lies, where everyone will do whatever it takes to please the irrational autocrat. I have been spamming this lecture everywhere since the war started and again I think anyone who's still questioning the Russian operative reality should watch it: Evaluation…

I think the crucial thing to understand is that current Russia isn’t just some “failed state” - it’s a crime syndicate that, due to historical mistake in 1990, was allowed to get its own country. See this thread for explanations: https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1502673952572854278?s...

That assertion is rather unsatisfying given that Russia is indeed a nation state with 1000 or so years of history.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

#125
post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the crucial thing to understand is that current Russia isn’t just some “failed state” - it’s a crime syndicate that, due to historical mistake in 1990, was allowed to get its own country. See this thread for explanations: https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1502673952572854278?s...

That assertion is rather unsatisfying given that Russia is indeed a nation state with 1000 or so years of history.

Of course, but I’m talking about Russia - the state, not the nation - as it is now. I’ve added “current” to make this more obvious.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

#126
My Casio watch normally syncs six times a day from the DCF77 transmitter in Frankfurt. In freak weather it may occasionally skip a sync or two, but otherwise it has been rock steady through more than two years of operation. Until about five days ago. Every attempt has failed since then.

Meanwhile, two wallclocks have been sitting with flashing sync-icon for a couple of days, but now seem to be online again. Presumably, they have much larger antennae than my Casio.

Someone knowledgeable, please explain to me: Is the signal potentially being tinkered with, or is this just a strange coincidence?

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

#127

My Casio watch normally syncs six times a day from the DCF77 transmitter in Frankfurt. In freak weather it may occasionally skip a sync or two, but otherwise it has been rock steady through more than two years of operation. Until about five days ago. Every attempt has failed since then. Meanwhile, two wallclocks have been sitting with flashing sync-icon for a couple of days, but now seem to be online again. Presumabl…

I'd blame local interference.

Bought any cheap electronics recently? Your neighbors new phone carger from aliexpress is a more likely reason than jamming or other intentional interference on 77.5kHz.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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My Casio watch normally syncs six times a day from the DCF77 transmitter in Frankfurt. In freak weather it may occasionally skip a sync or two, but otherwise it has been rock steady through more than two years of operation. Until about five days ago. Every attempt has failed since then. Meanwhile, two wallclocks have been sitting with flashing sync-icon for a couple of days, but now seem to be online again. Presumabl…

I'd blame local interference. Bought any cheap electronics recently? Your neighbors new phone carger from aliexpress is a more likely reason than jamming or other intentional interference on 77.5kHz.

No. Nothing changed locally, and I live fairly isolated. And anyway, we get around, me and my Casio.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

#129
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggesting Russians are playing a rational game here? I think the cover has been pulled on the Russian "master strategy".. it's literally a hierarchy of terror and lies, where everyone will do whatever it takes to please the irrational autocrat. I have been spamming this lecture everywhere since the war started and again I think anyone who's still questioning the Russian operative reality should watch it: Evaluation…

I started to watch it and it was indeed interesting, till it reached the point where the presenter claimed that Khodorkovsky was jailed because he stole too much. That's just plain false, and kind'a casts doubt on how expert is this expert. He was jailed for his political stance, that he didn't want to bow down to Putin. It's true that his first sentence for various tax dodging schemes in the 90s (that many at the ti…

Khodorkovsky was at one point the richest oligarch, which is basically one of the pinnacle states of kleptocracy. I think the lecturer understands the system much better than you

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

#130

Disrupting GPS may result in some economic chaos - it is used for precise time synchronization on financial markets.

GPS is an universally used timing source. For everything from SCADA to cellphone base stations to NTP Stratum-1 time servers.

It's easy, cheap and precise.

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