https://archive.md/WekP3 just in case
too bad there's no rollback on real life
“O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
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Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
You shouldn't read your employer's actions as uncaring. Ultimately it depends on where they are getting their money from. If that dries up, then there is no team anyway. I completely see your point, but I also see the difficulty your employer has. They can't just wait for the war to finish before getting their business going again.
I had a similar experience when I was interviewing for a company and got down with fever and intense coughing, with the HR guy saying "so you cannot attend the interview". Sure, lemme just drive by your company in a woozy state and answer every technical question while getting interrupted by a tingling sensation in my right lung that causes coughing every 10-15 seconds like a germ machine gun. After explaining to the…
That's why is always amazes me when employees show loyalty to the company without understanding that company is just a business. And their loyalty is a one-way street.
Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except people not in the war still need to eat and survive. Maybe it wouldn't matter on a global scale if some small software firm somewhere goes out of business, but it sure as hell matters to the business owner and their family, and the employees and their families. How do you think western governments can afford to send aid, if not through tax dollars collected via the production of their citizens? If everyone dec…
It is temporary. And if small software firm goes out of business - employees and the owner can always find another job. On a grand scale of things it is no biggie. In the end everyone will have food on the table and shelter, and the economy will prosper either way.
It's not temporary if the sentiment expressed in your original comment is widely shared. Remember, you said:
> The only thing that needs doing during war is be safe and support others.
If a single firm goes out of business sure, no big deal on a grand scale. If ten thousand firms go out of business, then that is a big deal. The position you hold fundamentally contradicts itself. Either nothing else matters, and therefore the entire world should focus on nothing but the war - which would lead to global economic collapse. Or you're wrong and other things actually do matter, in which case businesses shouldn't drop everything and completely forego local production in order to attempt to support Ukraine or Ukrainians.
Ideally of course there'd be some middle ground in which a company would attempt to support its Ukrainian employees, but regardless the company still needs to function and profit if it wants to keep said Ukrainian employees employed. You can't achieve one without the other. You seem to desire both support from these organizations while simultaneously demanding they cease operating in any capacity which puts them in a position to provide support.
Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
#124As if the pointless prodding of “any updates? :)” is ever called for. If there were any updates, there would be fucking updates posted. I frequently get comments like this in projects they I maintain, sometimes less than a day after the issue was opened, and it does nothing but annoy me and make me not want to resolve their issue. Why is there an expectation that maintainers have infinite amounts of time to fix whate…
Of course it looks silly in this context, since the Ukraine invasion is going on. However, in general, don't forget that in some cases there are maintainers who forget, or don't have time, or fix the issue BUT forgot to post an update. These things really do happen. I don't think it's inherently malicious to ask.
It's all about timing. Ask too soon, or too frequently, and you're being a jerk.
But after 2-3 weeks of silence? A slight prod is okay, even if the answer will turn out to be, "This isn't a priority and I don't know when I'll get to it."
Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
You shouldn't read your employer's actions as uncaring. Ultimately it depends on where they are getting their money from. If that dries up, then there is no team anyway. I completely see your point, but I also see the difficulty your employer has. They can't just wait for the war to finish before getting their business going again.
I had a similar experience when I was interviewing for a company and got down with fever and intense coughing, with the HR guy saying "so you cannot attend the interview". Sure, lemme just drive by your company in a woozy state and answer every technical question while getting interrupted by a tingling sensation in my right lung that causes coughing every 10-15 seconds like a germ machine gun. After explaining to the…
One of my friends was interviewing at a popular nonprofit. 6 interviews in and it was down to her and one other candidate. She asked to postpone her 7th (!!) interview a week because her grandmother died and she was flying home for the funeral. They hired the other candidate in the mean time. I told her it sounds like a place you wouldn't want to work anyway, but it still stings.
Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Russia says a lot, I wouldn't believe all of it to be either honest or true. That aside Russia coming up with it's own reasons for engaging in war with a country is different than Russia having internationally recognized reasons for engaging in war with a country.
> That aside Russia coming up with it's own reasons for engaging in war with a country is different than Russia having internationally recognized reasons for engaging in war with a country. Can you explain? Is there another internationality, except UN, which has authority to allow wars?
> Is there another internationality, except UN, which has authority to allow wars?
Kind of. International law is made up of both treaties and customary international law, which is (to oversimplify) basically a distillation of state practice. Think of it as almost analogous to statues vs. common law.
For example, while the U.S. is not a party to the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea, it recognizes most of its tenets as customary international law. (This is also why it regularly conducts freedom of navigation passages in the South China Sea, to prevent China's ownership claim from becoming customary international law.)
If a large number of nations (say, NATO?) agreed that another lawful basis for the use of force (LBUF) existed, beyond the right of self-defense or an UNSCR, that could become customary international law. The hot topic in this area right now is humanitarian intervention, which NATO cited in its Kosovo intervention and which the UK recognizes as a CIL LBUF. This gets meta real fast, since even though a large number of nations reached consensus on using it as justification for Kosovo, they haven't reached a consensus that there is a consensus on using it. Only the UK explicitly recognizes it as CIL, last I checked.
So what you see instead is this kind of academic song and dance where, e.g., the U.S. de facto is using humanitarian intervention to justify intervention in Syria but de jure relies on a mildly stretched interpretation of self-defense instead.
Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Posting account is suspicious as it was created at the time of the comment for the comment and the username has no other trace on the internet. Very suspect, impossible to prove of course though. I'm getting 6 minutes between comment and reply though, not seconds, and unless the developer was actively fighting they'd still be getting email notifications to their phone but unlikely to be at sitting at home patching Vu…
> Posting account is suspicious as it was created at the time of the comment for the comment and the username has no other trace on the internet. Very suspect, impossible to prove of course though. Seems pretty common to me. People frequently create accounts on sites just to ask a question or because they need something. This is probably the most common case / the long tail of most activity on social media sites.
The suspect part is that the username doesn't have any trace on the internet not just that it was a new account. Particularly relevant in this case since it's a 17 month old project with 9 total issues/PRs (or one every ~2 months) and this is the only such follow up to ever occur and the only one with such an account. Note: suspect, not guaranteed.
Again though the claim isn't it must be an impossibility to be anything else just a very suspect set of circumstances around the ping and impossible to prove one way or the other. I don't think it matters one way or another in the message, it's a good message and clearly popular, but that doesn't have anything to do with being staged or not.
Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Posting account is suspicious as it was created at the time of the comment for the comment and the username has no other trace on the internet. Very suspect, impossible to prove of course though. I'm getting 6 minutes between comment and reply though, not seconds, and unless the developer was actively fighting they'd still be getting email notifications to their phone but unlikely to be at sitting at home patching Vu…
The 6 minutes makes perfect sense to me - it could be one of those "If I don't reply to this ASAP I will never have time" situations. The notification is right in front of you. I don't think it's fair to assume any malicious intent here. What would the maintainer gain? People are already extremely aware of the situation. It's not a huge repo, there's no ask for financial donations or anything like that.
Counter-propaganda, which is exactly what the author later explicitly asks for both in the thread and (unverifiably) on the HN thread itself now. Of course they'd want that regardless if it was staged or not but there are more motives in life than a few bucks donation to your old GitHub project... particularly when your country is being invaded and an extremely false story being fed to the population of the invading country.
Or it could not be and just grew into propaganda naturally but that's why it's "Very suspect, impossible to prove" not "certainly staged, proven". Either way probably a good event but that doesn't mean we know whether or not it was staged just that the circumstances don't allow us to answer that question reliably.
Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is temporary. And if small software firm goes out of business - employees and the owner can always find another job. On a grand scale of things it is no biggie. In the end everyone will have food on the table and shelter, and the economy will prosper either way.
It's not temporary if the sentiment expressed in your original comment is widely shared. Remember, you said: > The only thing that needs doing during war is be safe and support others. If a single firm goes out of business sure, no big deal on a grand scale. If ten thousand firms go out of business, then that is a big deal. The position you hold fundamentally contradicts itself. Either nothing else matters, and there…
>If ten thousand firms go out of business, then that is a big deal.
That's why you need to focus on actually winning the war.
Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is temporary. And if small software firm goes out of business - employees and the owner can always find another job. On a grand scale of things it is no biggie. In the end everyone will have food on the table and shelter, and the economy will prosper either way.
It's not temporary if the sentiment expressed in your original comment is widely shared. Remember, you said: > The only thing that needs doing during war is be safe and support others. If a single firm goes out of business sure, no big deal on a grand scale. If ten thousand firms go out of business, then that is a big deal. The position you hold fundamentally contradicts itself. Either nothing else matters, and there…
The economy will always bounce back. Recession happens anyway from time to time, thousands of companies go out of business, new appear. Natural cycle.
Also I never said businesses should drop everything and support anybody. All I said is employees don't need and most won't work in times like these, at least those who are directly affected. No one gives a damn about their job or if they are fired in situations like this. And definitely no one would shed a tear if the company they worked for will go out of business, just like the company doesn't care about the employee it will let go.