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iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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I use ProtonMail because of their good support for custom domains. Their higher focus on privacy and security is nice, but it has little to do with why I chose them vs competitors. The only downside is you have to use the ProtonMail app or website on mobile, because of the way they do mailbox encryption.

Even if you pay for the premium service? I thought that was one of the features: where one could use it on a third party mail client.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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post #22

I use ProtonMail because of their good support for custom domains. Their higher focus on privacy and security is nice, but it has little to do with why I chose them vs competitors. The only downside is you have to use the ProtonMail app or website on mobile, because of the way they do mailbox encryption.

Even if you pay for the premium service? I thought that was one of the features: where one could use it on a third party mail client.

That's true for the desktop - they provide an app called the Bridge that logs into your inbox, decrypts the mail and exposes an email service on localhost that you can point your mail client to.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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I moved my emails to iCloud plus email domains less than a month ago. The import of existing emails was excruciatingly slow. I mean, 1 email per second on average, then failing with some random error halfway down the line (120k emails), even on retries, causing your migration agent to give up.

I spent the better half of a week trying to get it to work, ended up moving to Google Workspace instead.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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post #43
post #37

Catch-all addresses are a must have for me now. I allocate unique addresses to every website as these are more robust then using the + operator because they can't be stripped off. I've already busted one company (I presume selling) my email address to a cloud provider for them to send me marketing material. I emailed their privacy officer and didn't even get a reply, but that's OK, if it continues, one sieve rule and…

Why not use iCloud’s private email feature to generate a new email that forwards to your regular email for these purposes?

If you ever migrate away from iCloud, you lose all of those custom addresses. Using even one immediately locks you into iCloud for life. This is a sobering prospect in our age of "one wrong word and we'll ban you from our service."

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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post #50

Like many, I got bit by the end of legacy free Google Workspace so I've been figuring out my options. One related issue is how to get email off of Google Workspace. After checking out various options, I've settled on using imapsync ( https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync ). Unfortunately, the official Docker image was throwing errors for me while trying to move an almost 100k email account. Ended up building a modifie…

FYI for anyone seeking to download all their emails (or any other data stored by Google) they now have a handy tool developed at the behest of the EU: Google Takeout: https://takeout.google.com/

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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post #108
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I would fear that Apple forgets about the feature after a few years and then just drops it. This is a Google thing to do. Apple seems pretty great at picking and choosing commitments before they launch rather than what you describe here.

Not with online services, they've at least rebranded if not recoded them a few times. mac.com, MobileMe/me.com, icloud.com. It's true that the market is now much more stable, though.

True, but iCloud is over 10 years old now.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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I'm optimistic that Apple is working on most of these issues (especially catch-all) right now and this is just representative of their new offering. Like many things I've seen from Apple it will take a release cycle or two (of 1-2 years per cycle) to bring in this arguably basic functionality - as is tradition we'll groan about other issues being held back in favour of fancy new features. I have no doubt they intend…

I agree with you. In fact I am planning to create accounts for my yet to be born children just so that they will be able to have that @icloud.com. Because like you I also have faith in Apple and I’m pretty sure they would take 10-15 WWDCs stage announcements to get all of these things right unless they deemed these features as “nobody wants it and we know what they want instead”.

> “nobody wants it and we know what they want instead”

I would feel much more comfortable if they said this; it almost gaurantees that the feature in question that nobody wants will be the headline act at the The Apple Event 2025.

Apple reimagining email - catchall email addresses now available in iCloud+ 25 (now works with copy and paste in iCloud+ 26)

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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I reckon some people have an inherent need to keep things inside Apple’s walked garden. I often see it becoming nothing short of an obsession. For the rest I’d, as someone who gave it a try - almost their entire services suite including TV etc a thorough try, highly recommend to stay out. Stay out even if they improve it (which I doubt) from its current state i.e. pathetic. - Apple is a weird company but they are wei…

> I would just treat them as a device seller

If you believe the things you wrote - weird, institutionally dishonest, hostile to its customers and grossly incompetent why would you buy anything ever from them?

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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post #37

Catch-all addresses are a must have for me now. I allocate unique addresses to every website as these are more robust then using the + operator because they can't be stripped off. I've already busted one company (I presume selling) my email address to a cloud provider for them to send me marketing material. I emailed their privacy officer and didn't even get a reply, but that's OK, if it continues, one sieve rule and…

I use "-" instead of "+" with a regex: "/^name-.*@mydomain\.tld$/". Then I block them when I get spam after they get compromised. Many spammers already know to remove anything after the +-sign. But I must admit that the biggest benefit of this setup, was listening to my girlfriend on the the phone explaining to someone, at some company, the reason that their name was part of the email-address: "That is because if I g…

If you’re self-hosting your mail server and if you are using Postfix, changing recipient_delimiter could do the job without regex.

http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#recipient_delimiter

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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post #50

Like many, I got bit by the end of legacy free Google Workspace so I've been figuring out my options. One related issue is how to get email off of Google Workspace. After checking out various options, I've settled on using imapsync ( https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync ). Unfortunately, the official Docker image was throwing errors for me while trying to move an almost 100k email account. Ended up building a modifie…

FYI for anyone seeking to download all their emails (or any other data stored by Google) they now have a handy tool developed at the behest of the EU: Google Takeout: https://takeout.google.com/

Google Takeout predates GDPR by several years. I'm not sure if there was any other legislation in place in 2011 that required Google to provide something like this. My recollection is that it was not directly related to any actual legislation at the time.
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