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Marxism vs. Liberalism: An Interview Between J.V. Stalin and H.G. Wells (1934)

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Post by syki »

virgilp wrote: post #120
syki wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A person (or persons) with sufficient power/influence decided to pursue space flight and it happened. Which example does the previous sentence refer to?

When Musk decided to pursue space (or EV for that matter) he had very little power. Wasn't even a billionaire yet. There are thousands of people with similar fortunes that you never hear about.

So you don’t know which situation I was referring to? The fact the Musk accomplished what he did with SpaceX is prima facie proof that he had sufficient power/influence to accomplish the goal.

Re: Marxism vs. Liberalism: An Interview Between J.V. Stalin and H.G. Wells (1934)

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Post by virgilp »

syki wrote: post #121
virgilp wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Musk decided to pursue space (or EV for that matter) he had very little power. Wasn't even a billionaire yet. There are thousands of people with similar fortunes that you never hear about.

So you don’t know which situation I was referring to? The fact the Musk accomplished what he did with SpaceX is prima facie proof that he had sufficient power/influence to accomplish the goal.

Which is exactly what I'm talking about. Communism = "for sufficient power to influence/accomplish a goal, you must be in the party elite (tens, at most hundreds of persons)". Liberal democracy: "for sufficient power to influence/accomplish a goal, you must start at least reasonably well off" (3 to 4 orders of magnitude more people)

"power" is distributed in democracies; The centralized nature of communism is its weakest spot, and it is by design.

Re: Marxism vs. Liberalism: An Interview Between J.V. Stalin and H.G. Wells (1934)

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Post by re6fae5Wied5tha »

yazantapuz wrote: post #91
VictorPath wrote: post #79

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There is no, nor should there be, irreconcilable contrast between the individual and the family, between the interests of the individual person and the interests of the family. There should be no such contrast, because family, does not deny, but combines individual interests with the interests of the family." Horrifying. Not really. In a well-functioning family individual and family interests are in tune (of course t…

> In a well-functioning family individual and family interests are in tune In a family, yes, it is possible. With millions of individiuals? Hardly. Also, you can leave your family. Good look leaving a proletarian dictatorship.

Good luck leaving just about any country when virtually the entire world wipes bum with the UN Charter on Human Rights and restricts freedom of movement in violation of Article 13.

Re: Marxism vs. Liberalism: An Interview Between J.V. Stalin and H.G. Wells (1934)

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Post by re6fae5Wied5tha »

yazantapuz wrote: post #82
VictorPath wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no, nor should there be, irreconcilable contrast between the individual and the family, between the interests of the individual person and the interests of the family. There should be no such contrast, because family, does not deny, but combines individual interests with the interests of the family." Horrifying. Not really. In a well-functioning family individual and family interests are in tune (of course t…

Are you really comparing a slave in the 1800 to a amazon worker?

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