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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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This makes me wonder. Google has been known for a while to ban accounts semi-randomly with very vague excuses and no recourse, so people would lose access to gmail and other services. Is Microsoft going to do the same? "Sorry, we spotted you voicing an opinion that doesn't align with our corporate interests, so we decided to lock you out of all your PCs".

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #74

Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

> There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work. While Proton is great, it helps no one to suggest it's a solution to making all games work. There are absolutely enormous multiplayer titles still unavailable on Proton, if you can't play the games your friends play who cares if 99% of the rest of the Steam library works? Again, I think Proton is great…

Agreed on all counts. Proton (and WINE in general, really) is an impressive piece of work that has done wonders to make software available on Linux Desktop, but it is not a perfect solution. Personally, I'm sick enough of Microsoft's shit that I'm now willing to put up with Linux Desktop's shit instead and if that means I miss a few games, I'll live with it. I don't play competitive online games anyway.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #108
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but the adobes

Blackmagic Davinci Resolve is a good Premiere replacement and can replace parts of AE. It runs well on Linux. Pixelmator on macOS is a good Photoshop replacement. I got nothing for Lightroom or heavier uses of AE. Or Excel.

For Lightroom there is Darktable.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main problem with a MS account is if you have alot of documents and you log onto a new machine, you better have good internet speed otherwise you will be waiting hours for the documents to come down. Its not so noticeable with windows server (at least since server 2000) and workstations because office network speeds are good but if you also had exchange, then local copies of exchange mailboxes also tied up office…

Logging in with a MS account automatically uploads your documents to their cloud? Cool…

I doubt it, considering that Microsoft only gives you 5GB of storage for free. Anyone with non-trivial amounts of documents will quickly blow through this. What the parent poster is talking about is probably the onedrive folder, which probably gets automatically set up when you sign in with your microsoft account.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#125
post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main problem with a MS account is if you have alot of documents and you log onto a new machine, you better have good internet speed otherwise you will be waiting hours for the documents to come down. Its not so noticeable with windows server (at least since server 2000) and workstations because office network speeds are good but if you also had exchange, then local copies of exchange mailboxes also tied up office…

Logging in with a MS account automatically uploads your documents to their cloud? Cool…

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#126

Ah we never saw that one coming. What really bugs me is why people keep defending these companies: this is straight up abusive, and we - all of us - should not accept these tricks. Getting you an MS account is one small step away from charging you monthly for the privilege of using the computer that you've already paid for.

Most people using Windows probably already have an MS account. Those that don't may flee to Linux. But honestly I subscribe to Office 365, use OneDrive even on my iPhone, and enjoy Game Pass. It just doesn't matter that much. If anything having 2 factor auth for my computers is a benefit.

That said, I'm not a huge fan of it being required.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#128

Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

Games may have gotten better on Linux, but that’s not the case with some programs. Usually riddled with obnoxious DRM that throws a fit in a VM or wine like program. That and nvidia woes are the only thing stopping me from using Linux.

If cryptocurrency bros hadn't made them ludicrously expensive, I'd have bought a new AMD based card by now to facilitate ditching Windows in the near future. Sadly, said bros continue to unashamedly make the world worse and show no signs of stopping.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #108
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but the adobes

Blackmagic Davinci Resolve is a good Premiere replacement and can replace parts of AE. It runs well on Linux. Pixelmator on macOS is a good Photoshop replacement. I got nothing for Lightroom or heavier uses of AE. Or Excel.

Also missing is support for Pro Audio such as Nuendo and Dorico. If these would run on FreeBSD I would've swapped from OSX/Win years ago. At least there's some hope for Proton so gaming could work...
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