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My smart home 2021: A Home Assistant love story

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Re: My smart home 2021: A Home Assistant love story

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I don't know what your Z-wave setup looks like, but all I've got are GE smart switches and GE smart outlets, controlled with Home Assistant using an Aeotec Z-stick. It works flawlessly with zero noticeable delay, 100% of the time. It sounds like you've either got some bad interference or bad devices.

So much of one's experience depends on the z-wave hardware and it's not obvious at all which brands or products will be more reliable or better than others. My network is a hodge-podge of different switches and outlets, but mesh networking means it's easy to poison the network with a bad implementation. And then good luck finding the offending hardware.

Up until this past year, every single ZWave radio was made by the same company. They are now allegedly certifying third parties but I haven’t yet seen anyone announce that they’ve achieved that certification. It’s possible to build a crappy ZWave device, but the radio and network side should be solid, even on crappy devices.

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When you sell a house like this... what do you leave behind and what do you take? This has increasingly been on my mind. I've no desire to sell soon, but there's a Nest doorbell that is wired in, so it stays. A Nest thermostat, which I could remove but when I got the boiler I chose to not have the control panel extra with timer as I knew I had Nest. Then the lighting, the motion sensors... should I take the few thous…

I had a very similar setup in my previous apartment. I used a lot of battery-powered Zigbee devices for motion sensors, contact sensors, etc. and attached them using 3M command strips. I also wired up some Zigbee switch modules behind the light switches, so I could control all of the lights in our house. (This was way nicer and cheaper than using Hue bulbs everywhere.) I also had curtain motors, and a SwitchBot Hub to control air conditioners, etc.

Everything was pretty easy to remove and take with me to our next house.

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Not sure if I'm just getting older, but the less things/complications in my home, the more peace of mind I have. Been watching the youtube LTT channel on his smart home and I feel all the things going on would drive me crazy. This doesn't apply only to tech, but even for my next house (Looking into passive homes, least possible HVAC footprint, floorplan for minimal plumbing/electrical).

Sufficiently advanced home automation is indistinguishable from a haunting. Lighting controlled by home-assistant is endlessly frustrating. Especially if zwave. The networks are slow, the devices are awkward to configure, and when things go wrong debugging is difficult. Sometimes it takes my lights a good 60 seconds to respond during which time I'll try a few different button dances which all then get lifo queued...…

I had a similar problem with my Zigbee network when I first started, but I was able to dig in and fix all of the issues. I changed the Zigbee channel and moved everything away from my WiFi router. @NathanCu was really helpful [1] on the Home Assistant community forums.

[1] https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zigbee-problems-how-to...

Re: My smart home 2021: A Home Assistant love story

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When you sell a house like this... what do you leave behind and what do you take? This has increasingly been on my mind. I've no desire to sell soon, but there's a Nest doorbell that is wired in, so it stays. A Nest thermostat, which I could remove but when I got the boiler I chose to not have the control panel extra with timer as I knew I had Nest. Then the lighting, the motion sensors... should I take the few thous…

10 years ago I sold a house that had only a couple smart switches, and I took them out before we listed and replaced them with regular switches. A few months ago I sold a house a house with lots of Insteon stuff, and I left almost all of it in place. Partly it was because we sold quickly and I didn't have time, and partly because it was 9+ year old gear anyway. Insteon has the benefit that the keypad scenes and switc…

ZWave is designed to work without a hub once devices are programmed, but you do need to go the extra mile to make that work - as an example you can configure a ZWave switch to send a message directly to the lights it should be controlling, rather than going via the hub (although the hub can also be notified). If you’re curious the keyword you’re looking for is Association.

Re: My smart home 2021: A Home Assistant love story

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I want SO BADLY to convert my switches to smart switches, but it feels impossible to find what i need. Good luck searching on Amazon, too. Search for Zigbee, and it will return page after page of zwave, proprietary, and other listings. It's impossible to wade through. I've tried and given up multiple times. This is what i need that is evidently so difficult to find: 1. Zigbee 2. 3-way 3. Dimmable 4. Beige (almond?) C…

I highly recommend buying some Zigbee switch modules [1] and wiring them up behind your regular light switches. They convert any light switch into a smart switch that can be controlled through your Zigbee network. (This can be dangerous, but just make sure you turn off the power first, wear gloves, and learn all about line, neutral, ground. Get a good multimeter and triple check everything.)

[1] https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002164359835.html?spm=a2...

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Home Assistant seems to be hostile to Linux distributions. It's still difficult to package. Maybe they might want to have their own OS only. Maybe charge money for it in future.

The primary distribution method for Home Assistant is via a docker container, which should run just fine on most Linux platforms. There is a Home Assistant OS which is free to use and mostly exists as a lightweight docker host. It is the preferred installation method and is simple to deploy and keep updated.

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I simply flick a switch to turn on lights. Opening shades is no problem for me, a physically fit human.

You could read a newspaper to get the news or send a postcard to share your opinions with others, yet here you are on the internet.

Technology marches on, you get to chose if you want to engage with it, but I don’t think suggesting that people looking to leverage new technology are somehow less physically fit or lazier than you is the right answer.

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post #23

When you sell a house like this... what do you leave behind and what do you take? This has increasingly been on my mind. I've no desire to sell soon, but there's a Nest doorbell that is wired in, so it stays. A Nest thermostat, which I could remove but when I got the boiler I chose to not have the control panel extra with timer as I knew I had Nest. Then the lighting, the motion sensors... should I take the few thous…

There is almost no way you can handover any HomeAssistant installation during a home sale, not unless you want the buyer to be calling you for help with technical issues/gremlins months after the sale closes. Every single Home Assistant installation is effectively a custom install - there can be almost zero commonality between two different setups really. Things break because you don't update them; they break because you do update them. It's a small but constant stream of maintenance tasks once your HA installation reaches a certain degree of complexity and new owner is likely not going to be interested in that at all?

For me and my own HA install, I accept I will have to revert everything to how it was when I bought the home, which is itself a really tragic statement on the state of home automation in 2022. I get satisfaction from running it, but it does require running. It is not an "appliance", and there are still no real building codes/standards for ensuring these things stay compatible for years to come.

Similarly, if the seller tried to convince me to take a house with their own home made HomeAssistant setup, I would likely request it be removed completely before I closed the sale, regardless of any perceived quality of the work. If nothing else, I couldn't trust they hadn't left their own remote access ability somewhere in the stack and I don't have time to audit what might be years of quite hacky integration work.

There is an old saying, "Never sell a car to a friend". Home assistant is like that, but you should never sell it to anyone, regardless of how good you think you've got it running today.

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Speaking of that last thing, what's the best way to implement different brightnesses based on time in HA's yaml? I could do a bunch of ifs in each automation but there might be a better way?

I use https://github.com/basnijholt/adaptive-lighting/ in my config.

+1 to adaptive lighting.

Also if you need a wake up/sunrise light:

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/wake-up-light-alarm-wi...

Re: My smart home 2021: A Home Assistant love story

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>I witnessed "smart" houses when my parents' blinders died in "down" position and had no manual override... or when the electricity was down and they couldn't start their wood stove because it needs electricity to work... Are you saying you have a stove that doesn't have an electronic starter? Are you on a digital or analog thermostat? Does your home heater work without electricity? New technology will always have an…

Are you saying you have a stove that doesn't have an electronic starter? Are you on a digital or analog thermostat? Does your home heater work without electricity? Historically and mostly today, a wood stove is a cast iron container you fill with wood mostly to heat a house. There have been innovations in shape, airflow etc to make them more efficient but they generally haven't used an electric lighter. Electric-ligh…

"Historically and mostly today, a wood stove is a cast iron container you fill with wood mostly to heat a house. There have been innovations in shape, airflow etc to make them more efficient but they generally haven't used an electric lighter.

Electric-light gas stoves normally don't need electricity to function - in a outage you can light them with a match or sparker."

Does your parent's wood stove work work without electricity? As in, can you light it with a match or sparker?

"Eastern California, where I currently live, has experienced a half-dozen days-long electrical outages in the last year alone. A the time two months, when I spent four days snowed-in, with it 45-40 degrees inside my apartment, is notable. What does or doesn't work without electricity is an important question."

Yea this totally sucks and you make a good point. You parents' blinds needs a manual backup, just like how automatic garage door systems have a manual override. One of the things I try to focus on is to have my home still function if the server is down. My light switches all work without a server or the internet, but my sunrise lights will not. I think that's a good compromise.

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