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In Germany this isn't a legal move. One of my former employees (global telco everyone knows) tried to do the same, namely moving the contracts of the employees to an other company. 200 of them started a class action and won easily. The company had to terminate their contracts (which means the employees are eligible for unemployment benefits, etc.) and had to pay a good severance. Something like (years of employment)…

Why is it illegal to fire people in Germany?

... something something like "civilized country not tainted by the historical legacy of large scale chattel slavery"

American labor laws are inhuman.

Re: Booking.com is moving its customer service staff to an outsourcing company

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I got screwed over by their car rental division. Basically any mistake on your part voids any refund. I complanied to the European Consumer Centers network to see if I can recover at last part of my funds, but it gets more complicated as their transport division is registered in Manchester, UK which is no longer part of the EU. Needless to say, I am never going to rent any car through an agency again.

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I despise the experience so much that I can’t feel bad about the demise of that website. They’re are guilty of all the dark patterns imaginable. The day you stop providing a useful tool to your users is the day you can start counting til you close shop. On the other hand google hotel is providing a top service. This is actually my biggest worry with facebook. Even though I own their stocks, I’m scared that they are f…

I'm not necessarily a huge fan but I'm not sure what the alternative there is. They're pretty comprehensive. If you have any suggestions by the way I'm very happy to jump ship!

recently, I have used it to find the hotel, then booked direct.

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Disregarding how horrible it is to do that this way, ... The employee says he's french, so either he didn't have a french work contract, or what he is saying is untrue. While you can transfer an employee from one company to another, it must protect every employee advantage, his history, etc ... So he has the same severance as on his original contract, with the original timeline (his time of employment isn't reset to…

Agree that what he's describing is not legal in France. His account of being transferred to another employer is probably inaccurate or incomplete.

Re: Booking.com is moving its customer service staff to an outsourcing company

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post #87

Disregarding how horrible it is to do that this way, ... The employee says he's french, so either he didn't have a french work contract, or what he is saying is untrue. While you can transfer an employee from one company to another, it must protect every employee advantage, his history, etc ... So he has the same severance as on his original contract, with the original timeline (his time of employment isn't reset to…

Seconding that as someone who was both employed and self-employed in France. Companies cannot do such frivolous stuff with their employees here.

Re: Booking.com is moving its customer service staff to an outsourcing company

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Consumer travel protections in the US are much stronger than in Europe. I’m not really sure what regulations you’re thinking of. Source: American expat in Europe.

I would tend to agree with this. I’ve rarely received a refund or other compensation at least in Switzerland (not in the EU) for things that would immediately be handled in the US, particularly for retail purchases. The Costco and Amazon effect is far more prominent in the US whereas I feel much more constrained as a consumer in many European countries.

In the EU?

For the first 6 months, the legal assumption is that any defect was present at purchase which means - in practice - you can return pretty much any defective item no questions asked.

What did you want to return and could not?

Re: Booking.com is moving its customer service staff to an outsourcing company

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Several commentors have written this advice, but almost always if I check the hotel website directly I see much higher prices than what are offered on booking. hotels.com, or agoda. However, with flights and flight search websites I do sometimes see close to equal pricing, and in that domain I almost always check the airline website itself and book directly when possible.

In the past I've called and asked the hotel if they are willing to price match as I much rather want to be a customer of them, rather than Booking.com, and I think only around two times have they denied my request. Probably because those were very large hotel chains and didn't really care about one customer here and there. But smaller hotels have always accepted price marching for me.

Hotel websites aren't typically that great for good prices, nor for the ease of use. But talking to someone on the phone and quoting the booking.com (esp. genius) price can give you a good anchor, and many hotels will at least match it.

Re: Booking.com is moving its customer service staff to an outsourcing company

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post #65

Just skimming through the comments, there is some negative sentiment about Booking.com. So I came to say, that over the years, I've used Booking.com numerous times, without any single problem. Yes, there are dark patterns (13 people are looking at this offer right now, etc.), but free cancellation was always free for me, reviews matched my experience, information matched the reality. Sorry to hear about the layoffs,…

Same for me. The website has some dark patterns that really do suck, but their prices often beats the hotel directly and many hotels even refer you to booking.com

I'm not a happy user, but also not a sad or angry one. I do consider their service trustworthy, though their salesmen ship is a bit slimy

Re: Booking.com is moving its customer service staff to an outsourcing company

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post #43

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After spending most of my adult life in Germany, I have to be extra-vigilant when doing anything with money back in the US - from remembering that the prices on the shelves are several percent lower than what I’m actually going to have to pay (while being way lower than VAT, sales tax is not included in prices!) to anything to do with cellphones, and then stuff like this.

What's so alarming about us not putting sales tax on products? I grew up in the US but in a non sales tax state so my experience until I was 25 was the same as yours. When I later moved to a sales tax state I knew the price was going to be ~5-10% higher than what was printed but I got used to it very quickly. I hate to stereotype but I've found Germans in my experience to take particular offense to this practice. I'm…

Maybe due to the German fondness for cash?

A few percent higher prices aren't as much of a deal when paying with credit card, the transaction works exactly the same, but when paying cash, it might look very different (up to "don't actually have enough with me. oops.")

Re: Booking.com is moving its customer service staff to an outsourcing company

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Booking.com are abysmal. I used to spend 100-150 nights a year on the road and an ungodly amount of money with them. One time I turned up late at night to a property that didn’t exist that was listed on their website. They were absolutely useless in helping to resolve and it took months to get the money back. The fake apartment remained listed on their site for a long time too. Moved all of my spend to Hotels.com and…

Except hotels.com has been a nightmare lately too. The f-ing penguins! I’ll try to find an article and post it.

Penguins?
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