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UK.gov to make adults give credit card details for access to Facebook or TikTok

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I don’t know. Wireless radio (it will mean mothers no longer sing to their children), various genres of music over the years (will harm development of children), newspapers (in the 30s there was an obsession with young men reading newspapers rather than talking to their colleagues or family, like a mobile phone concern but in the 30s - if you Google this story you can find some impressive pictures of lines of men wai…

Young victims of schoolyard bullying could in the past retreat to safe spaces - a friend’s house, a favorite art or music teacher’s classroom, the computer club. Today, the bullies are posting cruel messages and media about you in huge group chats and creating fake social media accounts under your name to embarrass you. The abuse follows them into their bedrooms. There’s literally nowhere for them to go to hide. This…

>> Young victims of schoolyard bullying could in the past retreat to safe spaces

I don't think you meant it this way but what you're saying there is that victims of bullying who have been physically harmed in school yards could have just retreated to a safe space and avoided it. Clearly that's not true. I don't think you meant that but the words you've used are clearly wrong.

The one advantage of social media is that it does have an off button, in a way that the bully screaming in your face in the lunch hall queue does not.

>> This is why tween suicide rates are skyrocketing

I'm sure it's a contributing factor but this is just a statement we can't back up other than with faith that we think we understand what's happening. The truth is we don't fully understand.

>> to embarrass you

It is definitely a viable medium for bullys to harm victims. What i'm getting at is the problem is the bullying rather than the medium. If you play whackamole with all the ways a person can persecute another, you'll never solve it.

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People don’t realize how invasive the UK govt is when it comes to internet monitoring. Today if you try to access adult content on a UK mobile device you get blocked by age verification. You have to call your mobile provider and prove your age (it’s a once-per-contract thing). One of the ways you can prove your age is with a credit card. But I imagine it’s a large deterrent because not many people want to call Vodafo…

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Don't let your hate of porn, however justified you think it is, blind you to the harms of censorship and de-anonymization. As others have noted, they have already been caught censoring all sorts of non-porn content under this guise.

That you can remove the block doesn't fix all the issues - anyone under 18 is still confined to a government-approved subset of the internet, and many over-18's won't lift the filter, further marginalizing dissident websites that, entirely by accident, find themselves blocked.

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Keeping credit card details will expose private companies to the requirements of PCI to store them. It's against those rules for private companies to keep the cardholder information connected to the card details like the PAN. The PANs aren't even allowed to be stored unencrypted and access to them is subject to PCI as well.

Plus it means that people that don't have those forms of identification will be restricted from using the internet. Libraries won't be able to offer a lot of services, the "unintended side effects" are enormous.

But never put it past this particular British government from establishing the very best in footguns.

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Sorry, which videos? I mean it really, I'm from EU and have never found one. To watch some videos I have to login but have never ever asked me for a credit card that I recall. I'd like to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0LBi1MHoaU is age restricted :) Blaming the EU is a common escape strategy, but I don't believe it in the slightest. Mind, I wouldn't believe anything coming out of the modern Google except "we want to make tracking you easier so we can sell more expensive ads". Edit: if the evil EU "forced" them to require a credit card or my ID to watch Samuel L Jackson saying "motherfucker", why ha…

Wow.Thank you. I have not found one of these before. Only some that asked me to log in but no one with these restrictions , even if I used Google pay in the past, many years ago, is asking me for a credit card after logging in.

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Sorry, which videos? I mean it really, I'm from EU and have never found one. To watch some videos I have to login but have never ever asked me for a credit card that I recall. I'd like to know.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5GDrJEGkVk I suppose if you have verified your age in the past (for example if you bought something from the play store?) then you can watch the video freely. Try and watch it while logged off.

Thank you. I have not found one of these before. Only some that asked me to log in but no one with these restrictions , even if I used Google pay in the past, many years ago, is asking me for a credit card after logging in.

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> I was at the pool this summer and overheard this 15 year old boy ask (and then nag) a 16 year old girl what her onlyfans was bc she admitted to havi g one underage. > What we've done to ourselves as a society in this regard is pathetic. I fail to see how that's substantively different/worse than the cat-calling, profanities and other verbal abuse that women and girls have unfortunately suffered throughout history;…

> I fail to see how that's substantively different/worse than the cat-calling, profanities and other verbal abuse that women and girls have unfortunately suffered throughout history; often out of sight, and hence less amenable to third-party anecdotes.

Just because you perceive a problem as being less worse than another problem, doesn't mean its not a problem.

I think it should be normalized to not give children personal devices capable of accessing the web until they are 16.

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Don't let your hate of porn, however justified you think it is, blind you to the harms of censorship and de-anonymization. As others have noted, they have already been caught censoring all sorts of non-porn content under this guise. That you can remove the block doesn't fix all the issues - anyone under 18 is still confined to a government-approved subset of the internet, and many over-18's won't lift the filter, fur…

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Don't let your hate of porn, however justified you think it is, blind you to the harms of censorship and de-anonymization. As others have noted, they have already been caught censoring all sorts of non-porn content under this guise. That you can remove the block doesn't fix all the issues - anyone under 18 is still confined to a government-approved subset of the internet, and many over-18's won't lift the filter, fur…

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Limits on who can access certain content are a form of censorship.

That they have existed for a long time or that you approve of the particular one doesn't change that.

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> I was at the pool this summer and overheard this 15 year old boy ask (and then nag) a 16 year old girl what her onlyfans was bc she admitted to havi g one underage. > What we've done to ourselves as a society in this regard is pathetic. I fail to see how that's substantively different/worse than the cat-calling, profanities and other verbal abuse that women and girls have unfortunately suffered throughout history;…

> I fail to see how that's substantively different/worse than the cat-calling, profanities and other verbal abuse that women and girls have unfortunately suffered throughout history; often out of sight, and hence less amenable to third-party anecdotes. Just because you perceive a problem as being less worse than another problem, doesn't mean its not a problem. I think it should be normalized to not give children pers…

> doesn't mean its not a problem.

What a silly strawman; I never said it wasn't a problem, and in fact I said the opposite.

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