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Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system

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Post by sircastor »

jamil7 wrote: post #37
huhtenberg wrote: post #33

But, wait! It gets even better [1]: - Cannot also support IAP - Website links are all to a single URL specified in Info.plist with no parameters - Must submit monthly report to Apple listing EVERY external transaction All for measly 27% of the sales proceeds. A total steal. Apple's really jerking on the regulators' chain. I sure hope they continue in the same vein, because the fallout will be spectacular. [1] https:/…

They also don't provide a view controller or something you can present to display the warning as they do with other things like this, you have to build the view yourself according to their silly specs... Phil Schiller needs to go.

Hasn’t Phil Schiller gone already? I think Greg Joswiak is the VP in charge of the store now.

Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system

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Post by unfocussed_mike »

samwillis wrote: post #102
unfocussed_mike wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like sharing popcorn when the playground bully picks on a kid you don't like.

No this is like sharing popcorn when the playground bully chases a kid you like but trips over his own feat and falls flat on his face. The point is its embarrassing the lengths Apple are going to to try to maintain the status quo.

That has not happened yet.

Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system

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Post by AMD_DRIVERS »

Can we also acknowledge that Apple says that you must use a Payment Service Provider that also supports Apple Pay?

"Your PSP will need to offer the following:[...] - Broad payment support including cards, iDEAL, and Apple Pay."

This just seems evil.

Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system

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Post by scandox »

sersi wrote: post #114
unfocussed_mike wrote: post #39

I am puzzled that he really appears to find it funny. I am a long-time Mac user and I find myself fervently hoping that Apple has made the completely unnecessary self-own that will finally help people forget the whole keyboard fiasco. This is the most staggering example of deliberate, bad-faith arrogance that they could have come up with. If Apple is now the kind of business that joyfully thumbs its nose at regulator…

I think he finds it funny in the same way Netflix Death to 2021 is funny or SNL jokes about Trump were funny. It's a way to laugh at a terrible situation. Black sarcastic humour when honestly things really suck.

As a non-American may I point out that SNL is no laughing matter under any circumstances.

Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system

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Post by unfocussed_mike »

mccorrinall wrote: post #118
unfocussed_mike wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like sharing popcorn when the playground bully picks on a kid you don't like.

I believe you’re misinterpreting it. Pretty sure it’s meant sarcastic since even satire magazines like the onion couldn’t make this up. The germans actually have a word for this: “realsatire”. It means when reality writes better satirical tragedies than anyone of us ever could.

I don't think I'm misinterpreting that he appears to be gleeful at the trolling. He thinks it is funny.

Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system

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Post by jeroenhd »

alistairSH wrote: post #68

Meh, mixed feelings about this. I like Apple's payment system. It works, it's consistent, I can cancel things from a single menu. There are real benefits to me, the consumer, to using Apple's system. On the flip side, other payment systems can be a hodgepodge of unsecured, user hostile (cancellations), and inconsistent. There can be real negatives to using other systems. More so some systems that don't have a consist…

The thing is, you don't _have_ to buy things through a third party and you don't _have_ to buy anything if you don't like the payment processor. The market will correct itself when shitty applications with shitty UX don't get any sales, unless it turns most customers don't care and people like you are the minority.

In a perfect world, there'd be a "pay with Apple Pay (€2,60)" button right next to the "pay with iDeal (€2,25)" button, just like on most web shops. If you prefer to use Apple's services, you can pay the extra costs for the 30% Apple tax and lose nothing you have now. Apple are the ones putting extra restrictions on app developers, I'm sure devs would love to have the easy Apple option available right next to the cheaper option!

To me, Apple's behaviour reads like they know they can't compete in an open market with their payment processor fees so they'll fight tooth and nail to keep any form of competition out. Their cut is simply unreasonable compared to any other payment provider, but of course they'll try to fight their billions in profits whenever they can. They go so far to force developers to increase their prices and even forbid them from showing the transaction costs in the checkout screen.

Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system

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Post by jamil7 »

sircastor wrote: post #121
jamil7 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also don't provide a view controller or something you can present to display the warning as they do with other things like this, you have to build the view yourself according to their silly specs... Phil Schiller needs to go.

Hasn’t Phil Schiller gone already? I think Greg Joswiak is the VP in charge of the store now.

Oh you might right, I thought he was still there.

Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system

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Post by jaywalk »

capableweb wrote: post #25
dpcx wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft was forced around Internet Explorer not "just" because theirs was pre-installed. It was more that Internet Explorer had become so baked in to the system that it literally could not be removed without breaking Windows. That was the thing that caused rulings against Microsoft.

I'm not sure that holds up in practice. The "fix" for the anti-trust claim (or what it was called) was for Microsoft to add a popup asking the user what browser they wanted, and Internet Explorer (or whatever it's called today) is still as embedded into the OS as it was in the past.

IE isn't embedded in the OS in any significant way any more, and hasn't been for a while. Windows Explorer used to basically be a wrapper around IE, for example.

Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system

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Post by skrebbel »

To make matters worse, the Dutch translation of the mandated text has awkward style. It feels grammatically incorrect to me although I can't pin-point why.

It feels a bit like

   This app does not supporting App Store's privately and secure-payment system
I think they just ran it through Google Translate or something?
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