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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Seems like this is just a gradual push to a complete ban in my estimation. Half measures will only annoy both pro and anti Rogan factions.

It'll be ineffective. He'll probably just move to something like Rumble that will just ignore all the smear pieces. Guy is popular enough that his audience will follow him, so now there's blood in the water Spotify is in a no win situation

He can't just move. He made $100 million exclusive licensing deal.

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Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

I hope that no-one here was surprised about this given that this multi-million 'exclusive contract' was seen by many as a sell-out to a private platform that has the upper hand on what they allow on their platform. It seems that those concerned about him selling out now have a point, but I doubt anyone cares - JR still made his money and that decision was ultimately up to him. But perhaps the big lesson here for othe…

> But perhaps the big lesson here is to run your own company and host your own show.

And give up $100M? LOL why on earth would that be the big lesson?

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Andy Dick and Dave Foley episodes were removed? Skeptical about that, but if so, why?

Many episodes with COVID discussion are still up. The ones taken down feature comedians and (non-COVID related) controversial figures. I'm not sure these removals are related to the controversy.

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This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.

This has nothing to do with free speech.

Spotify is not being compelled by any authority to remove or keep content on their platform. The only reason why Spotify hosts or removes content is because it's what they decide is best given market pressures.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

I am not sure there is really a winning play in situations like this that does not result in substantial losses either way.

I agree. They put themselves between a rock and a hard place. The solution was not to hire him, but that’s long past.

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When JRE went to Spotify many people were hailing it as an anti-cancellation move. They clearly misunderstood.. the podcast was decentralized (even if your podcast host shuts you down you can serve the rss and mp3s from somewhere else). And Youtube was another avenue of distribution. Centralization makes you more vulnerable to getting particular content vetoed.
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