Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
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Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
#122Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
#123Every soft drink I’ve had since COVID have tasted off. So. If your drinks taste off, that might also be the explanation.
Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
#124Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
#125Off topic, but the headline made me realize that something “tasting off” is sort of an unpaired expression. We don’t say that normal drinks “taste on.” An unpaired word is one that, according to the usual rules of the language, would appear to have a related word but does not. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unpaired_word
It may be unpaired in American English but maybe not in non-American dialects of English? Have heard people from Great Britain say things like "x is on" before with roughly the opposite meaning as how we use "y is off".
Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
It may be unpaired in American English but maybe not in non-American dialects of English? Have heard people from Great Britain say things like "x is on" before with roughly the opposite meaning as how we use "y is off".
Not sure if it's only the UK but we also use "up" and "down" as synonyms in some sitations. e.g. "I'm up for going to the pub" and "I'm down for going to the pub" mean the same thing
Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
#127For the life of me, I can't find any references I stumbled upon when I searched about it, but has any of you had the same symptoms?
Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
#128For me, it's also a timely discussion in that a short while ago (from my records on August 19 2019) I was looking at the Wikipedia article on aspartame when I realized that there was a significant error on the page. The skeletal formula was correct but the ball-and-stick model was incorrect in that it had an extra hydrogen tacked onto the aspartic acid group—the NH2 was misrepresented as NH3.
Being somewhat surprised at the error—as one would have thought that both representations would have been generated in the same software, Avogadro etc., thus the error should have occurred in both or not at all—so I dug a little deeper. I recalled that I had previously visited Wiki's Aspartame page some years back so I went looking to see if I had kept a copy of the page and sure enough I had saved it (it's not unusual for me to save Wiki pages).
Anyway, upon reexamination of the earlier page, I found that the ball-and-stick formula was also incorrect therein. Clearly, I'd not noticed the error back then.
The date of that earlier viewing was April 5, 2012, so the Wikipedia page has had that blatant error present for over 9 years—it could be much longer as I never checked when the page was originally posted! Given both its notoriety and controversy, how could such a large mistake exist in this Aspartame page for so long without anyone noticing it?
I then tried to correct the error. I attempted to edit the page only to be informed that my domain was unacceptable and so I could not do so. I then resorted to contacting Wiki by other means and informing them of the error and they corrected fault within hours.
If anyone has a reasonable explanation for why this error could exist so long on Wiki without being corrected then I'd love to know. Moreover, why would only the balls-and-stick be in error when it is normal for both representations to be generated on a common piece of software?
Second Matter:
"Searle patented this product, naming it Nutrisweet and Equal. Officially, aspartame has a half-life of about 300 days in solution at about pH 4, about the pH of soft drinks, but half life means that half if it as gone by that time. And if the cans are exposed to a hot storeroom or stored in a warm summer garage, they may deteriorate faster."
I'd rarely have the opportunity to drink 'old' artificially sweetened drinks of this sort. First I don't drink many of them, and second, I only buy them in the supermarket where there's a very fast turnover of stock.
That said, I find Diet Coca Cola unbearably sweet and almost undrinkable when its chilled and completely undrinkable when warm, the others, Zero etc., I find so sweet that they're undrinkable under any conditions.
Could it be that drink manufactures are actually increasing sweetness past the so-called 'bliss point' to allow for the deterioration/aging of aspartame? Perhaps they're aiming for some 'ideal' or average date past manufacture where the maximum number of punters would likely be consuming the stuff.
Does anyone know or have factual information about such matters?
Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
#129Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis
#130Sorry if this is slightly off-topic, but whenever I drink Coca-Cola Zero, I get a bit dizzy. It doesn't happen with other soda like Pepsi Zero. I've read somewhere that aspartame is much stronger than sugar. For the life of me, I can't find any references I stumbled upon when I searched about it, but has any of you had the same symptoms?