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We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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I don't think the dust has settled on whether this was manmade or not?

Even if it was manmade the responsibility for that should fall on the international scientific community rather than the Chinese government and even less so on the people. The lab in Wuhan was not scientifically isolated, funding came from abroad. Similar research has been conducted elsewhere. Of course it's still important to find out the truth on the matter.

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Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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I bought a laptop once. It came with windows pre-installed. And a bunch of bloatware. And 101 things that phoned home under the guise of checking that a driver was up to date. And Norton. The definition of malware is open to large interpretation.

>I bought a laptop once. It came with windows pre-installed

Some would say, not without merit in my opinion, that the malware part started with Windows itself.

https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.html

But even if we aren't that stringent with the definition of malware, we had malware preinstalled on our computers quite some time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo#Security_and_privacy_in...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell#Self-signed_root_certific...

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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You cannot possibly blame the Chinese government or the people for the Corona virus. That's just insane. Granted, the official response wasn't good. But a virus pandemic was ever only a question of time. It's unlikely it could have been prevented wherever it had started.

Sure we can blame them. They tried to cover it up in the beginning. It would be insane NOT to blame them for that. It’s also been debunked that the virus came from a wet market.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Hug of death probably so I cannot read the article. Anyway that's the reason why I don't buy Chinese crap anymore. I'm not saying that I don't buy anything made in China, almost everything is made in China, but everyone should avoid Chinese crapware. If something doesn't match the description send it back, if you find random executables that you cannot identify send it back, if you are asked to register on some weird…

that's the reason why I don't buy Chinese crap anymore. I'm not saying that I don't buy anything made in China, almost everything is made in China, but everyone should avoid Chinese crapware. This is one of the big reasons that Apple locked down its Lightning/USB ports so hard. There were tons of fake Apple chargers flooding the market that contained exfiltration circuitry, among other problems. It was a huge topic i…

Given the vast financial incentive apple has for keeping its chargers proprietary, I find it difficult to believe Apple is doing this for the primary reason of benefitting their users.

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Why are you being downvoted? Avoiding chinese products is a good thing. Thanks for the tips.

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China is one of the most polluting nations in the world. I've started to think that avoiding trade with them is a responsibility.

Also, the book "Poorly made in China" is extremely interesting.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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20 years ago, china hide 2nd network card that was in listener mode, transmitting documents at random times, mostly peek. This was at a research company. How it was discovered. We put a card on listening/prem mode and mirror everything for that subnet the printer was on. I thought I screwed it up with the double mirror/traffic. when investigating why the issue, we found nothing wrong with the config, only when we plu…

Why was the printer connected to the public internet? A DMZ subnet would have prevented this vector of attack.

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Given that Windows 7 _Ultimate_ was installed on what is essentially an OEM machine, it's very likely that it's a pirated copy with a "home brewed" license key. I think the most reasonable explanation is that either the OS was sourced already infected, or the crack tool they used was infected.

You know what? I don't care anymore. When this type of thing happens it's almost always China. Whether it's intentional malware or a lack of QA, how could one tell? They have such a reputation for both I don't know why we still let their electronics into our countries.

> When this type of thing happens it's almost always China.

It could only happen in China - because the author bought dubious stuff from unknown third party on AliExpress. Craiglist scams happen mostly in US because people don't use it elsewhere.

Sort of like how you shoot the arrow first and then draw a target around it, 100% bullseye.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Hug of death probably so I cannot read the article. Anyway that's the reason why I don't buy Chinese crap anymore. I'm not saying that I don't buy anything made in China, almost everything is made in China, but everyone should avoid Chinese crapware. If something doesn't match the description send it back, if you find random executables that you cannot identify send it back, if you are asked to register on some weird…

Buying from China, as a westerner, is akin to buying the rope that will hang you. Regardless of the quality or price of their products.

We should have never allowed them to become this powerful. Their ideology is toxic and incompatible with ours.

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China is one of the most polluting nations in the world. I've started to think that avoiding trade with them is a responsibility. Also, the book "Poorly made in China" is extremely interesting.

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