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Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Post by Steltek » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:30 PM UTC

09bjb wrote: post #109

amanzi wrote: post #38

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Same. Ad-free YouTube is essential for me, and getting YouTube Music as part of the bundle is a nice bonus. I have the family plan but my kids are always bugging me to get a Spotify family plan instead. If I do ever cave and pay for Spotify, I'll have to keep the YouTube premium plan anyway since I can't go back to watching the obnoxious ads on YouTube.

Both Opera's built-in adblocker and uBlock Origin on other browsers takes care of most of this nicely for me.

But if you're gonna pirate content, I don't think paid music subscriptions are right for you either.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Post by whiddershins » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:30 PM UTC

JimBlackwood wrote: post #89

joshstrange wrote: post #39

I am all in on Apple and only a few dollars away from the Apple One bundle being worth it for me but I just don't like Apple Music. The UI is just too difficult to use and it feels slower than it should be, definitely slower than Spotify. While I have no love for Spotify's podcast ventures and dislike them trying to push me to listen to podcasts on their platform, I do love it for music and it "Just Works". Also I ca…

I’m with you here. While I don’t have the same issues as you, Apple Music sometimes feels like a beta version to me. Spotify does too, sometimes. One giant annoyance with Apple Music is their artist matching/suggestions. I have a few artists with very generic common names. Anytime another artist with the same name releases another album, it’ll be wrongly matched to the artist I listen to for a few weeks. More annoyin…

I have an artist with a name conflict and even though I have control of the “official” artist distribution page for my work and have reached out to Spotify (and Apple) repeatedly, this other artist with the same name keeps appear amongst my tracks.

Super frustrating.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:37 PM UTC

gorjusborg wrote: post #45

bradly wrote: post #31

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I still don't understand how a business can be unprofitable for 16 years. At one point don't you say, "whelp, this isn't going to work"?

https://www.barrons.com/articles/spotify-has-finally-found-a...

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Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Post by gilrain » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:40 PM UTC

DisjointedHunt wrote: post #28

Apple Music only has significant usage because of their anti competitive behavior. All apps on the App Store have to go through rigorous review and are restricted to Apples discretion in being granted access to OS features while Apple themselves use undocumented features to compete as a platform. Try hooking up AirPods to your iPhone and do nothing else. The Lock Screen changes to have an Apple Music player with a ra…

Have you tried deleting Apple Music from your iPhone? Should solve all your issues...

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Post by Steltek » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:40 PM UTC

cauthon wrote: post #78

aparticulate wrote: post #50

sluggish UI aside, I really don't like Apple Music's TASTE in music. Spotify's playlists are reliably more niche. Apple is far more "GRAMMY/Top 40"-oriented and that's just not interesting to me. Also, Apple should have bought Rdio.

I totally agree with you. I miss Google Play Music. In addition to a superior queue UI (hey Spotify, let me play a song next), they had the best playlists and song recommendations I've found on a streaming service.

I miss GPM's UI. While I'm a pretty firm YTM customer (price, features, catalog, artist payout feelgoods), the UI is pure trash and annoys the hell out of me. From playlists, queues, browsing, and recommendations, it's all awful.

Thankfully music is mostly "search for that song", "play a mix from this playlist", or "play just this playlist" so no one needs to suffer through it for long.

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Post by jhoechtl » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:45 PM UTC

hbn wrote: post #72

joshstrange wrote: post #65

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That's completely fair and I even pay for iTunes Match even though I don't really use it anymore, it and Apple Music never meshed well in my experience but maybe it's gotten better. There is a way to listen to your own music in Spotify (even mobile) [0] but it might be a little shaky, I doubt they care much about it. I've used it before but only on desktop. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-upload-music-to-s…

I've read up on Spotify's custom library stuff, and it seems to just be a weird hack that only works on one device. What I really want is a music locker I can stream to any device to fill in the gaps that aren't available in the streaming library.

We had it all with Google Music

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Post by topaz0 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:46 PM UTC

bvm wrote: post #20

Am i the only tidal user left?

I wondered the same thing. I use tidal and think that it is good.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Post by bradly » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:46 PM UTC

gorjusborg wrote: post #45

bradly wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't understand how a business can be unprofitable for 16 years. At one point don't you say, "whelp, this isn't going to work"?

https://www.barrons.com/articles/spotify-has-finally-found-a...

Oh nice. They are getting close! Still unprofitable, but maybe year seventeen is the sweet spot.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Post by jhoechtl » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:51 PM UTC

I am using a music streaming service which is totally free and offers me genres without any subscription lock-in. Additionally it doesn't track my listening habits and thus enables me to discover new music as I am not in a listening bubble.

I like that streaming service a lot

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Post by e40 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:56 PM UTC

kitsunesoba wrote: post #105

joshstrange wrote: post #39

I am all in on Apple and only a few dollars away from the Apple One bundle being worth it for me but I just don't like Apple Music. The UI is just too difficult to use and it feels slower than it should be, definitely slower than Spotify. While I have no love for Spotify's podcast ventures and dislike them trying to push me to listen to podcasts on their platform, I do love it for music and it "Just Works". Also I ca…

The thing that kills Spotify for me is how pushy it is combined with the frequent unnecessary UI changes. The lack of an API that allows track playback is a huge, huge bummer too (look up the saga of libspotfy if curious) — shockingly, Apple Music is more open in this regard, with multiple alternative third party clients being available thanks to JS and native Mac/iOS SDKs.

I'm curious what UI changes you're talking about. I can't remember the last time there was a UI change, and I've been using them for 5+ years.

In fact, as I was reading these comments I was thinking they've been totally stagnant UI-wise, and the only hate I for the iOS app is the pop ups for events, etc. I make a point to never read any text in them and dismiss immediately.