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Myths about Social Media
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't get to embrace bigotry and hatred, and then turn around and complain when you get kicked out. If the conservative subreddits could have managed to behave themselves like rational and good people, they would not be getting kicked out.
Is it not bigoted and hateful to say that someone should die because they didn’t get the vaccine? Asking as a liberal
That's certainly an unhealthy, unhelpful and hateful attitude. I'm not sure if "bigoted" is the right word here, but that comes down to etymology.
On the other hand when there's a disease that's killed millions worldwide and someone decides to allow themselves to become a vector and let the disease spread rather than get vaxed, I'm not going to shed too many tears if they happen to die from it.
Hoping or praying for somebody's death is ugly, but some schadenfreude may be appropriate.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not taking a vaccine and endangering yourself and others as a result is a personal choice, so I would not call it "bigoted" to be angry at someone for making that choice. "Hateful", maybe. But again, it is personal choice that person made that endangers others. It is also not an active stance - no "liberal" is going out to actively make unvaccinated people die. They are just sitting there hoping for their choices to…
Bigoted literally means close-minded. I have encountered many close-minded liberal opinions. Think about this: we have seen ideas on the right that go too far (e.g., storming the capitol, white nationalism, racism or other forms of hateful discrimination). But there are ideas on the left that go too far also. Who is keeping check on the other end? Can liberal or left-leaning ideas go to far? When they do, are they be…
Woke ideology is certainly widely criticized in public.
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#124This is to Danish parliament. I wonder if the research he is quoting applies to (a) a larger country (b) with a heterogeneous population that (c) communicates primarily in English (where most misinformation seems to be aimed). Since he didn't link to the studies, it's hard to know. Giving him the benefit of the doubt that these studies really exist. But I certainly think those three factors may be important in his re…
> This is to Danish parliament. I wonder if the research he is quoting applies to (a) a larger country (b) with a heterogeneous population that (c) communicates primarily in English (where most misinformation seems to be aimed).
Are you talking about India?
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bigoted literally means close-minded. I have encountered many close-minded liberal opinions. Think about this: we have seen ideas on the right that go too far (e.g., storming the capitol, white nationalism, racism or other forms of hateful discrimination). But there are ideas on the left that go too far also. Who is keeping check on the other end? Can liberal or left-leaning ideas go to far? When they do, are they be…
There are no widely accepted ideas on the left that go anywhere near as "too far" as there are on the right. There simply is no comparison there. There certainly could be such ideas. But right now, as things stand? No, there aren't anything like the absolute madness the right is displaying. Nowhere near.
Your answer reveals a lot.
Perhaps the reason you think that is because of the previously discussed biases that have became normal.
I’ll give two examples:
1. The Black Lives Matter movement. Riots and cities being burned because of a few cases of police brutality were covered in a very sympathetic rather than objective way. In one case the words “mostly peaceful protest” was used to describe one where several things were on fire.
2. Transgender issues. Most ideas about it are never questioned. Parents are allowing their small children to decide what gender they want to be. People are having surgeries and hormone treatments with seemingly no other alternatives ever being explored. Biological men are competing in women’s sports and destroying old records. People are switching bathrooms and everyone must just put up with it. No one is questioning wether we are actually taking the healthiest long-term approach. Why? Because they are afraid to question it.
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#126It's incredibly weird to me that people are ok with demonizing feelings and tone. Who cares if people are 'hateful'? One man's hate is another slight aggresion, and american toxic positivity makes haters of us all even if we speak with the best of intentions.
Hate is toxic because it excludes people who cannot handle hate from discussion and closes their possibility for self expression. You don't want discussion to be only available for people with 'thick skin' because that is like 'only the strongest are allowed to eat'. I think as a society we are well past that. The opposite toxic behavior is of course labeling every disagreement as 'hateful'. Feelings and tone should…
I didn't say anything about toxicity, I don't know what that is and haven't found a clear definition. Hatred is a completely appropriate reaction to the percieved stupidity of others, its a human emotion like any other it can be expressed as vulgarities, capslock etc. but the expression isn't the problem here. You can clearly define vulgarity, or other types of unwanted behavior but this isn't enough for the self appointed tone police. We are not anything 'as a society', we are not a society, we are not even remotely in the same culture. We as different peoples that have to interact and if you make criteria based on the arbitray standards of civility based on your culture this is terrible for a number of different reasons.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are no widely accepted ideas on the left that go anywhere near as "too far" as there are on the right. There simply is no comparison there. There certainly could be such ideas. But right now, as things stand? No, there aren't anything like the absolute madness the right is displaying. Nowhere near.
Your answer reveals a lot. Perhaps the reason you think that is because of the previously discussed biases that have became normal. I’ll give two examples: 1. The Black Lives Matter movement. Riots and cities being burned because of a few cases of police brutality were covered in a very sympathetic rather than objective way. In one case the words “mostly peaceful protest” was used to describe one where several things…
You are making some extreme misrepresentations in this comment, like "People are having surgeries and hormone treatments with seemingly no other alternatives ever being explored."
This is very, very, very far from what reality is. This is what you have been told by people pushing far-right ideology. It is not reality.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are no widely accepted ideas on the left that go anywhere near as "too far" as there are on the right. There simply is no comparison there. There certainly could be such ideas. But right now, as things stand? No, there aren't anything like the absolute madness the right is displaying. Nowhere near.
Your answer reveals a lot. Perhaps the reason you think that is because of the previously discussed biases that have became normal. I’ll give two examples: 1. The Black Lives Matter movement. Riots and cities being burned because of a few cases of police brutality were covered in a very sympathetic rather than objective way. In one case the words “mostly peaceful protest” was used to describe one where several things…
1. The Black Lives Matter protests were, in fact, mostly peaceful. I didn't attend any of the protests but there were several in my city. No broken windows, no fires, no riots. "Peaceful" objectively describes the majority of the protests. Much like most police officers are well meaning individuals who became police because they want to help people, most of the protesters were law abiding folks who want to make America a better place.
2. You have to have some pretty narrow blinders on to think that no one is questioning transgender issues.
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#129I disagree harshly with the idea that social media _isn't_ an echo chamber. I mean, look at Reddit over the past few years. They've slowly (and successfully) removed nearly every conservative leaning subreddit on the site. It's clearly a hive mide ultra-lib circle jerk and anyone who doesn't see that has been drinking the blue reddit koolaide too long. The only thing left really is r/conservative which is at best mad…
You don't get to embrace bigotry and hatred, and then turn around and complain when you get kicked out. If the conservative subreddits could have managed to behave themselves like rational and good people, they would not be getting kicked out.
Were they more bigoted and hateful than, let's say, r/FemaleDatingStrategy, r/BlackPeopleTwitter or r/FragileWhiteRedditor?
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#130I disagree harshly with the idea that social media _isn't_ an echo chamber. I mean, look at Reddit over the past few years. They've slowly (and successfully) removed nearly every conservative leaning subreddit on the site. It's clearly a hive mide ultra-lib circle jerk and anyone who doesn't see that has been drinking the blue reddit koolaide too long. The only thing left really is r/conservative which is at best mad…
You don't get to embrace bigotry and hatred, and then turn around and complain when you get kicked out. If the conservative subreddits could have managed to behave themselves like rational and good people, they would not be getting kicked out.
This is such a bullshit argument but I am sure you already know that.