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I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by randomhodler84 »

dale_glass wrote: post #114
randomhodler84 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tech works extremely well at making me feel sick. I enjoyed subnautica sans VR. ED is less interesting than Euro truck simulator. :-) I get the physical games like table tenis and beat saber, but how is this not a fad? The wii was cool at the time too. Nintendo didn’t retain the ideas in later hardware. VR chat is about as interesting as second life, and any metaverse that follows will follow the same path.

Well, in that case you've got to make adjustments to your setup (wrong IPD maybe?), or you could just be unlucky and get sick far too easily. Consumer VR of course involves a disconnect between what you feel and what you see, and that makes people sick when it gets bad enough, but most people can enjoy at least some VR experiences. By my account, I've managed to spend days of real time within Subnautica exclusively i…

“Far too easily?” You Sir are being rude, and I feel like you are trying to justify your VR experiences to yourself.

However If you enjoy it, that’s all that matters.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by ryandrake »

dale_glass wrote: post #90
randomhodler84 wrote: post #80

I wanted to love VR. I dreamed of having a headset when I was younger and kickedstarted the oculus rift. I imagined a million worlds that would be within virtual reach. It would be the coolest! VR has been nothing but a complete disappointment to me. Motion Sickness, headaches, sweaty headsets and detachment. Never played a VR game that wasn’t better without it, somewhat like 3D movies. I have my doubts this will eve…

You've not played the right games, then. I mean, take Robo Recall, which is one of the first things that came out. Sure, you can do a shooting game without VR, but then you don't get the experience of tearing a robot apart with your own hands and punching another's head off with a torn off arm. Or Elite Dangerous is quite the experience in VR too. Less so than Robo Recall, but it works out extremely well if you have…

IMO Elite Dangerous is so good in VR I stopped wanting to play vanilla flat E:D. I’d play it more if it wasn’t such a hassle to boot to Windows, haul out all the HOTAS gear and the VR gear, unplug my external monitors, plug everything else in in the right order, find there are 5 mandatory Windows updates and an Oculus update to sit through, etc. You kind of need a dedicated desk and PC for VR.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by pmx »

ryandrake wrote: post #122
dale_glass wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've not played the right games, then. I mean, take Robo Recall, which is one of the first things that came out. Sure, you can do a shooting game without VR, but then you don't get the experience of tearing a robot apart with your own hands and punching another's head off with a torn off arm. Or Elite Dangerous is quite the experience in VR too. Less so than Robo Recall, but it works out extremely well if you have…

IMO Elite Dangerous is so good in VR I stopped wanting to play vanilla flat E:D. I’d play it more if it wasn’t such a hassle to boot to Windows, haul out all the HOTAS gear and the VR gear, unplug my external monitors, plug everything else in in the right order, find there are 5 mandatory Windows updates and an Oculus update to sit through, etc. You kind of need a dedicated desk and PC for VR.

Quest 2 with a link cable (or wireless link if you have great wifi) makes all this a lot easier!

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by arvinsim »

disambiguation wrote: post #17
idontwantthis wrote: post #15

I work in Immersed every day as a developer. It's a fantastic experience. Primary work goes on an IMAX sized 2880x1800 screen in front of me divided up with TMUX and Vim. Slack in a vertical 1440 x 900 to my right, and media + reference on a drawing table oriented 1440 x 900 below where my lap would be. Instead of a boring room in my house, I'm in a nebula that's beautiful but non-distracting.

what headset do you use? is eye strain / head strain a problem from extended wear? how do you deal with tracking peripheries? as mentioned in the article KBM, coffee etc.

I am pretty sure some VR headsets have a "passthrough" functionality to see the real world. Although judging by my Quest 2, it's not that good.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by drusepth »

randomhodler84 wrote: post #121
dale_glass wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, in that case you've got to make adjustments to your setup (wrong IPD maybe?), or you could just be unlucky and get sick far too easily. Consumer VR of course involves a disconnect between what you feel and what you see, and that makes people sick when it gets bad enough, but most people can enjoy at least some VR experiences. By my account, I've managed to spend days of real time within Subnautica exclusively i…

“Far too easily?” You Sir are being rude, and I feel like you are trying to justify your VR experiences to yourself. However If you enjoy it, that’s all that matters.

One small tip I'd offer is... try chewing gum next time you're in VR.

I have almost 3,000 hours clocked in VR according to Steam and there are still a few games that can make me nauseous (mostly those with poor locomotion and/or bad frame drops). Weirdly enough, chewing gum seems to help a ton; in some games, I feel like I'm less nauseous next time I play, too. Not sure how scientific this is, but friends say the trick generally works for them too.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by fastball »

politician wrote: post #104

PSA: You can no longer buy a business-class Oculus Quest 2 from Facebook/Meta. Presumably while sales reworks the product line for Metaverse pricing. If you don’t want a Facebook account for your VR device, the only other option for Immersed looks like a Vive Focus 3.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by nannal »

jcims wrote: post #102
callmekit wrote: post #93

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I bought Oculus Quest 2 about a month ago. The games I play the most probably wouldn't be even possible (or at least fun) without VR - Pistol Whip (you need to evade slow-moving bullets) and Thrill of the Fight (boxing simulator). It's more of a fitness device for me now.

I returned mine after a month but apparently I didn't do enough research into how to get out of the little walled garden that is set up for you. I had the Samsung Gear a few years back and felt like it was the exact same environment. In both cases one of the most interesting experiences was the movie theater. It somehow works. The social aspect was creepy, i'm an old guy and all i could hear was voices of young child…

I've had a similar problem, I like the tech, enjoy the single player games but when it comes to anything online the number of shrill voices makes me feel like I'm the outsider in their space.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by jcun4128 »

randomhodler84 wrote: post #99
dale_glass wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've not played the right games, then. I mean, take Robo Recall, which is one of the first things that came out. Sure, you can do a shooting game without VR, but then you don't get the experience of tearing a robot apart with your own hands and punching another's head off with a torn off arm. Or Elite Dangerous is quite the experience in VR too. Less so than Robo Recall, but it works out extremely well if you have…

The tech works extremely well at making me feel sick. I enjoyed subnautica sans VR. ED is less interesting than Euro truck simulator. :-) I get the physical games like table tenis and beat saber, but how is this not a fad? The wii was cool at the time too. Nintendo didn’t retain the ideas in later hardware. VR chat is about as interesting as second life, and any metaverse that follows will follow the same path.

The hard thing with VRChat is finding "your" people and particularly people that aren't screaming/younger teens. But it is funny, I still feel anxious talking to a stranger in VR. It's wild though... I mostly spend my time alone (moved to a random state) and I can just dive in somewhere and talk to random people. I do feel old in general though on VRChat ha.

I suffered with motion sickness too it gets better over time.

I will say I'm not a generally all-around likeable cool guy either so you do have to vibe/give something (be interesting). Ultimately as far as making friends or something... that's hard. I'll get invited to discord servers and then it dies off in a few days.

There is one thing I have to try still Fo4 VR.

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