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Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
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Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ganguro is associated with a certain Japanese subculture and aesthetic, and not meant at all to represent darker-skinned races. There are works that feature a more diverse cast, but perhaps the proportion of representation accurately reflects what you would see in Japanese society.
> Ganguro is associated with a certain Japanese subculture and aesthetic, [...] Yes. What's your point? > [...] and not meant at all to represent darker-skinned races. No one ever claimed that. The question to my post was simply where to possibly get data from for "darker skin tones". Ganguro seems like an option because ... well, darker skin tones? Care to elaborate why you bring up "representation of darker skinned…
In the context that they were using skin tones in, (cf. "usually Japanese characters", "go all SJW on you guys"), it's easily inferred that the interest is in more diverse representation of races and not excessively salon-tanned Japanese skin.
Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
#123This tool has many applications, and those that will make you rich isn't about anime.
step 1: generate random waifu
step 2: NFT all the things
step 3: profit
step 4: GOTO step 1
step 5: automate steps 1 to 4
Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed, we spent 2 years working on this!!! It's an extremely hard research problem, because darker skin tones account for only about 0.3% of all anime art produced in the world. We have employed an absolutely exhaustive array of art and data science tricks to give the model the ability to draw darker skin tones, though they are underrepresented. The results that you see today are the culmination of many months of ca…
I don't quite understand the need to mandate racial caricaturizations in every modes of communication. I would find it upsetting if every pieces of texts and quotes were prefaced with an "origin" indicator to aid forming prejudices. Why have it in manga?
What mandate? It's a product designed to be used by living, breathing people and people tend have various preferences. Do people requesting darker skinned models somehow upset you more than people who request red haired models?
Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
#125I found the most interesting part was the evocative comment about the 'vast and parched' nature of the latent space.
I wonder if the OP's intuition regarding the sparseness of the latent space, and the relatively small area occupied by the 'useful' manifold? embedded within it provide us any clues as to what symbol grounding might look like for some neuro-symbolic infrastructure that sits atop that latent space.
I.e. how should we be trying to represent concepts like 'male' and 'female' within that space?
Is it important to have these concepts represented as a low dimensional manifold?
Is it important that this manifold be easily described by some simple geometric form like a convex polytope?
Is it important that nuances and variations on the concept be separable within the bounds of the concept-specific manifold?
What other properties might be important?
Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't quite understand the need to mandate racial caricaturizations in every modes of communication. I would find it upsetting if every pieces of texts and quotes were prefaced with an "origin" indicator to aid forming prejudices. Why have it in manga?
If you are part of a marginalized group, it is both nice to the individual and productive for societal-level integration if you find yourself represented in media, especially if it's a generator with a promise of "generate anyone ". No one here is mandating shit, GP asked a friendly question in a most respectful manner, which prompted an informative answer from OP even. If such interaction generates such an allergic…
> societal-level integration
I really think this integration predominantly means systemic internalization of racism, with side effect of affirmative actions. When ethnicity is expressed with intent, a distinction is made, and distinction is synonymous to discrimination. Or classification, for that matter.
Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
#127Hey HN, one of the team members here! I hope you all enjoy playing with the new and improved generator! We've been hard at work improving the model quality since the last time the site was posted[1] As both a professional fantasy illustrator & software engineer, I find the concept of AI creativity so fascinating. On one hand, I know that mathematically AI only can hallucinate images that fit within the distribution o…
Roughly speaking how much money did you invest into making this? Just curious if this is something an indie hacker can hope to do one day OR do you need some deep pockets to make a site like this?
Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you think human creativity is anything more than statistical modelling? What else can it be, based as it is in a physical substrate? Objections like yours are usually a sneaky way of implying that human consciousness breaks free of the physical world, cartesian dualism hidden within people's arguments. "It cannot be creative because it's only bits/cogs/linear algebra/etc/etc." Well describe to me the way i…
> What else can it be, based as it is in a physical substrate? This is no less shallow reasoning. The question of whether the academic field of statistical modelling already contains the necessary ideas to produce strong AI is not decided, and won't be unless/until somebody makes a strong AI. People have different intuitions about what the answer will be and until it can be determined empirically I suggest treating t…
I didn't mean to imply it was a settled question. I had in my mind the notion that all this is rather unproven at the moment.
I quite strongly suspect that there is a small but significant amount of whatever "intelligence" might be within GPT3 et al.
But I completely agree, it is just a suspicion.
Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Except that then anybody could literally just download it and start a competing service saving 2 years of development and hundreds of thousands of $ in compute costs over that time?
No, they couldn’t. And I guarantee you they spent nowhere near that sum to train the model, and that it wouldn’t take two years to clone it.
Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
That seems like a nice project that you're working on, definitely more high effort than some other attempts at generated art (procedurally or otherwise). I can't help but to feel that this would be a better fit for the fad of NFTs as well, as opposed to ugly monkeys or other asset flips that were pretty obvious cash grabs. Either way, good luck!
I'm guessing your referring to the "one of a kind" part of NFTs, which made me wonder, how would they validate that the created Waifu hasn't been created before? The question is, would people buy, since there are near endless, and a huge difference is that these don't have a story attached to them...
Probably for it to work you would have to limit them and have a set of hand selected images. Seemingly people will buy anything if you can hype it enough.