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The medieval habit of ‘two sleeps’

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Re: The medieval habit of ‘two sleeps’

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I tried this for a few weeks in college and it was a pretty neat experience. I slept first from 9-12 and then 3-7/8. Those three hours between 12 and 3 ended up being super productive - I was very energized and had creative ideas about whatever I was doing. I had to stop because going to bed at 9 in college was like kissing your social life goodbye, but even these days if I naturally wake up in the middle of the nigh…

Same for me, I tried that for almost a year and the night hours were super productive and enjoyable no matter which activity I do.

Re: The medieval habit of ‘two sleeps’

#124
post #70

Ironically I am between my sleeps now. I’ve been casual about life for so long that I’ve fallen into medieval sleeping habits.

Same here. I place absolutely no pressure on myself to sleep if I’m not tired. I fell asleep at 7:30pm and Woke up at 10:30pm

I’ll do some work and be back asleep by 2 or 3.

My kids will be up at 6:30 and it’s all good with me.

When my kids get older, my sleep patterns will change again I’m sure, as they did when we entered into parenthood.

Fighting for sleep feels like an argument with reality, my kids are young and up periodically throughout the night.

c’est la vie

Re: The medieval habit of ‘two sleeps’

#125
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Null hypothesis: early humans slept much like today's humans [...] That's a terrible null hypothesis, as there is no reproducible, controllable test for it, other than a time machine. A better one might be "people exposed to pre-industrial revolution photoperiods ( This was empirically tested with a small N ( https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2869.1992... ). At least it's testable.

A much better study: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/the-many...

Better in what dimension? It's not a repeatable intervention, it's not controlled, it's observational. It's not a study on the same null hypothesis.

Re: The medieval habit of ‘two sleeps’

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post #105

I tried this for a few weeks in college and it was a pretty neat experience. I slept first from 9-12 and then 3-7/8. Those three hours between 12 and 3 ended up being super productive - I was very energized and had creative ideas about whatever I was doing. I had to stop because going to bed at 9 in college was like kissing your social life goodbye, but even these days if I naturally wake up in the middle of the nigh…

Were you able to fall back asleep at 3? Some of my most productive hours are later at night, but then even when I'm tired and decide to go to bed, my mind keeps running.

Yeah, but falling asleep was way easier in my late teens, so I couldn't say for sure if I would be able to do it now.

Re: The medieval habit of ‘two sleeps’

#128

I tried this for a few weeks in college and it was a pretty neat experience. I slept first from 9-12 and then 3-7/8. Those three hours between 12 and 3 ended up being super productive - I was very energized and had creative ideas about whatever I was doing. I had to stop because going to bed at 9 in college was like kissing your social life goodbye, but even these days if I naturally wake up in the middle of the nigh…

Same for me, I tried that for almost a year and the night hours were super productive and enjoyable no matter which activity I do.

Honestly curious here and not picking on you. If it was super productive and enjoyable, why only do it for a year?

Re: The medieval habit of ‘two sleeps’

#129
post #13

The article does not mention it, but mothers with small children have to nurse babies every couple of hours, even at night. So given that in middle ages, families had "copious numbers of children" (quote from the article), it is for sure that mothers would need to get up to feed a baby. And then possibly the whole family would woke up too. And if multiple generations were living in the same house, then even more prob…

Multiple generations also slept on the same bed, I'm surprised the theory is two sleeps and not multiple sleeps. Not that humans haven't habituated to group sleeps in tight quarters, but one bed feels qualitatively different than a bunch of tired submariners cramped in individual bunks or some similar arrangement.

Re: The medieval habit of ‘two sleeps’

#130
post #99

I tried this for a few weeks in college and it was a pretty neat experience. I slept first from 9-12 and then 3-7/8. Those three hours between 12 and 3 ended up being super productive - I was very energized and had creative ideas about whatever I was doing. I had to stop because going to bed at 9 in college was like kissing your social life goodbye, but even these days if I naturally wake up in the middle of the nigh…

Oh, so, 21-24 and 3-7/8. Took me a while.

I knew some people in college who might well have kept the 9-12 and 15-19 sleep routine...
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