This is not a mental health issue. It's a result of misinformation and conspiracy theories being spread most likely on social media and people believing them. So many people just blindly trusting information being spread without properly fact checking or checking their sources. This is what's going on. It starts with bias towards a specific group, then they start searching for any evidence that can support their bias…
Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
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Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
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It's fairly standard anti-semitic bullshit that huge numbers of people believed, and have believed for decades. Most conspiracy theories are at their heart based on anti-semitic lies produces by the various christian church for hundreds of years. Even during WW2 there were Americans commenting on hitler being right about the jews. As a reminder: WW2 was in no way about the holocaust. My wife was in a line at a UC beh…
Like Henry Ford.
Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dunno. If I wanted to kill a bunch of people would it be easier to… 1. Wait for a pandemic, simultaneously develop multiple bogus vaccines at competing pharmaceutical companies, fake clinical trials at multiple in multiple countries, pass fake data through multiple regulatory agencies, and keep all of it secret. 2. Run some Facebook ads telling people not to protect themselves during a deadly pandemic?
In Ontario, the vaccinated are getting infected at a higher rate than unvaccinated. Which seems a very strange effect for a vaccine to have. On the conspiracy side, you can't really rule out a coordinated effort at this point. This video goes into how spreading confusion and fear, to create a state of public mass psychosis is a tactic employed by authoritarians in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M
- Cases: vaccinated = 100/100k, unvaccinated = 80/100k
Vaccinations reduce the severity of the disease. If you get exposed, vaccination will prompt your body to deal with the infection more quickly when there's less of the virus. This can, but doesn't necessarily, clear the infection before it's detected. You can see the protective effect in Ontario by looking at different severities.
- Population 12+: vaccinated = 88%, unvaccinated = 9%
- Hospital non-ICU: vaccinated = 65%, unvaccinated = 25%
- Hospital ICU: vaccinated = 40%, unvaccinated = 50%
- Deaths aren't reported by vaccination status on this page
Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Ontario, the vaccinated are getting infected at a higher rate than unvaccinated. Which seems a very strange effect for a vaccine to have. On the conspiracy side, you can't really rule out a coordinated effort at this point. This video goes into how spreading confusion and fear, to create a state of public mass psychosis is a tactic employed by authoritarians in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M
I'm using the data at https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data . It shows the inversion you've mentioned. - Cases: vaccinated = 100/100k, unvaccinated = 80/100k Vaccinations reduce the severity of the disease. If you get exposed, vaccination will prompt your body to deal with the infection more quickly when there's less of the virus. This can, but doesn't necessarily, clear the infection before it's detected. You can see the…
One plausible explanation I heard is that the immune system does not recognize the virus, but rather the cells infected by the virus. The immune system uses T-cells to destroy those infected cells. The drop in effectiveness of each successive vaccine, suggests a diminishing ability for the immune system to recognize the infected cells. And its not really clear if repeated boosting will solve this problem. I think of it as a ai that's been over optimized to recognize only the training data.
Don't really have a background to evaluate if this is a valid explanation of why we are seeing this inversion.
Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
#125This man is seriously unwell. This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense. The fact that he thought others would appreciate the message is further proof that he is in the midst of a serious crisis. He has completely lost touch with reality. Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country, away from his former social circles, has likely removed all social supp…
I'm not going to join on the outrage/mental illness bandwagon based on the media's interpretation of an email they are not releasing. I'm guessing that the email is indeed anti-semitic, and I'm guessing that the media doesn't want to legitimize anything he's saying by publishing the entire email. ...but I'm not going to throw stones without seeing the evidence myself. This is the trade-off. Unfortunately, the media k…
That same portion is copied verbatim into the article.
And if that's not enough, someone copied his recent Instagram activity to Twitter: https://twitter.com/elisenicscott/status/1478470250307981324 I'm no doctor, but those are not the ramblings of a mentally sound individual.
Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not going to join on the outrage/mental illness bandwagon based on the media's interpretation of an email they are not releasing. I'm guessing that the email is indeed anti-semitic, and I'm guessing that the media doesn't want to legitimize anything he's saying by publishing the entire email. ...but I'm not going to throw stones without seeing the evidence myself. This is the trade-off. Unfortunately, the media k…
There's a screenshot of part of it in the OpenGraph image for the FOX 13 article: https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba27103/21... That same portion is copied verbatim into the article. And if that's not enough, someone copied his recent Instagram activity to Twitter: https://twitter.com/elisenicscott/status/1478470250307981324 I'm no doctor, but those are not the ramblings of a mentally sound individu…
Your links ALSO do not disclose the original email this is all about.
I'm not going to judge this guy without the actual evidence. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills being the only one in this thread demanding to see the evidence against him.
Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
#127This man is seriously unwell. This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense. The fact that he thought others would appreciate the message is further proof that he is in the midst of a serious crisis. He has completely lost touch with reality. Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country, away from his former social circles, has likely removed all social supp…
Yeah I've never heard of him but saw that he was retired as CEO and wondering how old he is. Could be a sign of dementia or Alzheimers. Something has gone wrong in his head.
This guy needs help. I'm kind of surprised nobody in the article suggested it.
Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a screenshot of part of it in the OpenGraph image for the FOX 13 article: https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba27103/21... That same portion is copied verbatim into the article. And if that's not enough, someone copied his recent Instagram activity to Twitter: https://twitter.com/elisenicscott/status/1478470250307981324 I'm no doctor, but those are not the ramblings of a mentally sound individu…
Again - we are judging him on an email he sent. ...yet that email is nowhere. All we have is the media's impressions of an email they have not released. Your links ALSO do not disclose the original email this is all about. I'm not going to judge this guy without the actual evidence. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills being the only one in this thread demanding to see the evidence against him.
2. The individual in question has resigned without releasing the full email.
3. The individual's statement on the matter is nearly as bad as the portion of the email we've seen.
4. The second link shows a pattern of similar behavior.
> I'm not going to judge this guy without the actual evidence.
There appears to be a treasure trove of evidence against this individual, and no attempt has been made by anyone to dispute it. It's rare that we get this much evidence. If you really want the full email, just ask the people who received it--they sound as though they're eager to hand it to anyone who's interested.
Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
#129Having just read it, this sounds like a mental health issue to me. It's well outside the bounds of opinion, even a ridiculous or hateful opinion. I worry that people are running to mock this guy because they want to portray these views as the kind of things their opponents actually think, while in reality there is clearly something wrong with him and he may need some compassion. This is not a fringe opinion, there is…
If it is a mental health issue, then that issue affects a very substantial double-digit percentage of the population, something approximating the count of vax refusers. They don't believe in the same nuttery, but they do subscribe to one of the many flavors of anti-science aggression. What is most fascinating and frightening is that there are many who, rather than understand that the world has serious random phenomen…
There are cabals among scientists that need to be questioned. On fossil fuel, tobacco, medical topics and a lot of other issues. Germany had a lot of science on why Jews are inferior. Even scientists have an agency that does not have to align with public interest. Your comment suggests blind faith which is certainly not a good idea.
> cabal of people responsible for the misery in their lives
conservatives, liberals, rock musicians, the church, homosexuals...
Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant
#130Ah... Yet More Proof(tm) that "intelligence" is multi-dimentional. And that you can be very bright indeed in some dimensions (evidence - he was a tech executive), yet far dimmer than a box of rocks (has any box of rocks ever committed career suicide via anti-semitic rant?) in others. A Modest Proposal: Mr. Bateman needs a 72-hour involuntary admission to a good psychiatric hospital. His recent behavior might be cause…
> Mr. Bateman needs a 72-hour involuntary admission to a good psychiatric hospital
I think he got a sentence to remember already. Don't think many Jews would think too favorably about this idea.