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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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I had the same issue with unavailable, but on an instance in us-east-1b. Finally just got the force stop to go through a minute ago and it's now running and available again.

I'm not sure if we should say "AWS is down" if only us-east-1 is down. That region is more unstable than Marjorie Taylor Greene on a one-legged stool.

And only one AZ in us-east-1. But... it's clearly having a large impact as well.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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No, fair use does NOT allow you to retain the original copyright. That would be passing off a derived work as the original copyright holder's work, which could be very damaging. This is a violation of fair use, if it could even be considered that to begin with.

That's more of a trademark issue, and would require a reasonable consumer to be likely to be deceived. Which they're not.

No, it's not a trademark issue. They copied the work verbatim (including code, which is not covered by trademark law, but by copyright law), modified it, and then put the original copyright notice in the legalese. This is copyright infringement.

And consumers are clearly deceived - hence why my original comment asking about it was written and has several upvotes.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Does your server at home handle similar traffic to that of US-East-1 since you're comparing uptime? Simiarly, my laptop, if I keep it plugged in the wall, and enable httpd on localhost, will surely have better uptime than any of the top clouds. I'd bet that it'd have 100% uptime if I plugged in a UPS and cared for traffic on my local network only.

Your home ISP has 100% uptime? That's incredible.

Mines had 100% uptime for the past 2 months. I’ve had great value for money using a NUC for personal projects than public cloud subscriptions over the past few years.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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This website is not a parody, and fair use does NOT permit you to retain the original copyright notice on the derived work. You may say that the original work is copyright of the respective owners and that this is a parody work. But that's not what the site is doing. The footer contains the original, unaltered copyright, creating confusion as to who owns the derived work. Amazon does not own this, nor do they endorse…

Let them sue. I see the headline now, "Amazon sues status page website for accurately reporting on outages". Followed by lots of people hosting mirrors to stop.lying.cloud and saying things like "We are all stop.lying.cloud now"

This has nothing to do with the validity of the case, though. Just because it's a ridiculous court case doesn't mean it's not legally sound...

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Ok, enough AWS outages to say I'm tired of hearing about low end stuff being flaky.

Nobody ever got fired for using AWS.

True sad fact. I first thought it is a management problem but lately I see it is the tech bros who push for fads in the hopes of staying relevant and not asuming responsability for choices.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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post #86

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This website is not a parody, and fair use does NOT permit you to retain the original copyright notice on the derived work. You may say that the original work is copyright of the respective owners and that this is a parody work. But that's not what the site is doing. The footer contains the original, unaltered copyright, creating confusion as to who owns the derived work. Amazon does not own this, nor do they endorse…

Can you imagine that some might see your position as one of unmitigated pedantry unfitting in any discussion of this - clearly jocular - website?

Nope. Because these laws also protect people who make such websites from the corporations they're commenting on, too. The respect must be mutual, else e.g. OSS has no basis for legal protection, either.

Being concerned for the proper respect of IP laws is something that benefits everyone.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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It seems that it's due to powerloss.

[05:01 AM PST] We can confirm a loss of power within a single data center within a single Availability Zone (USE1-AZ4) in the US-EAST-1 Region. This is affecting availability and connectivity to EC2 instances that are part of the affected data center within the affected Availability Zone. We are also experiencing elevated RunInstance API error rates for launches within the affected Availability Zone. Connectivity and power to other data centers within the affected Availability Zone, or other Availability Zones within the US-EAST-1 Region are not affected by this issue, but we would recommend failing away from the affected Availability Zone (USE1-AZ4) if you are able to do so. We continue to work to address the issue and restore power within the affected data center.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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But that is copyright infringement. You're not allowed to copy some work, modify it, then slap the original copyright on it. This is an illegal website, prone to being taken down by AWS. It's just strange.

AWS might be smart enough not to make that strategic blunder. They won't want to draw attention to the inaccuracies of their status page.

Perhaps, but the status page could exist within legal boundaries with a few trivial changes anyway. Why not just do that?
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