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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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I know this doesn't address all of the points you brought up, but I heavily use Multi-Account Containers[1] to isolate social, work, shopping, etc. It works well, for me. I don't miss Chrome profiles. [1]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

And the experience is absolutely awful.

Would you mention what you don't understand so that someone can help you instead of just talking bad about a very nifty piece of software?

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

I used to not block ads, but today it's almost impossible to use any site that depends on ad revenue without an ad blocker. The amount of garbage on the page - notifications, badges, banners, popups, whatever else crap marketing people invent - is staggering. Sites are mangled to the point of being unusable. I want to support creators, but it's a two-way street.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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How about posting what we’re losing for those out of the loop. That Reddit link is pretty useless.

There's an extension api called onBeforeRequest() that lets Chrome extensions see urls that are about to be requested by the browser. It allows you to examine the url and do whatever code heuristics you want to decide whether you want to block it. Google is removing that dynamic blocking ability and providing you with a way to supply a static list of blocked urls instead. No ability to use code to implement a dynamic…

Why does uBlock Origin need to be able to block things dynamically?

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back.

I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some extra css to this to set the titlebar and system UI buttons - use the first revision if you don't want that)

The tree style tabs are wonderful. I can see a grouping of tabs, see which tab is the "parent" of a bunch of pages. I often have a root tab with Jira current sprint, then a ticket sub item, then branching from that I have various documentation and github pages open. All of those pages together form one mental "unit" of related information and work.

I'm sorry to post this in a somewhat unrelated thread, but I'm geeked out by how well this works! Firefox is better for my needs anyway, because I can tag bookmarks. Much easier to find saved pages through searching tags for "emacs, babel, python" for instance. Or "firefox, tabs, css"

*On-topic:* This move by Google is going to lose them a ton of browser users, I think. People love blocking ads! Especially tech-minded folk, who are often asked to recommend software or repair things for less knowledgeable or comfortable people.

I'd also like to see a Chromium fork that continues to allow the Manifest V2 API.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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If Google makes enough changes that eventually makes it impossible to merge upstream code while maintaining compatibility with the old APIs, then Brave and everyone else will either be stuck with old and unpatched Chromium versions or they'll have to waste resources to keep things working. Not everyone has the resources to maintain their own Chromium fork and it's not easy to keep up with Google, Microsoft, Samsung,…

They already de-google the entire codebase. You can see which parts are removed here https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-... and they keep up quite well.

Yeah... what happens when Google decides something important can't work without one of the disabled features?

Look, Google controls Chromium and they have the resources (and incentive?) to keep these smaller browsers running in order to keep up with them.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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> The Chrome devs claim that this is to enhance user security, but I have my doubts about that. Well, then it means they don't need to monitor their extension store for extensions doing bad things, I suppose it's part of the story.

An extension can steal personal data and manipulate pages with Manifest V3 APIs just like before, it does not become any harder for extensions to compromise browsers. There may be an argument that it becomes a bit less performant to execute the JS required to thoroughly compromise a browser, but I don't think such malware cares about microsecond performance losses.

Then what is preventing adblockers from working ? What's that fuss all about ?

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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No, that is absolutely not the worst scenario. People are being refused jobs and treated as criminal suspects based on their location profile. Insurance rates are being increased based on these profiles. Real estate agents and auto dealerships are starting to use this data in their negotiations with you.

> Insurance rates are being increased based on these profiles Let's be honest here, rich people get better insurance rates. Not because of some nefarious scheme to impoverish the poor, but because they claim less (which is the primary driver of insurance cost). Additionally, many (if not all) insurance companies use things like your home address as a factor in pricing, which again benefits people living in rich(er) a…

Firstly, I don't think that your web data would be particularly predictive for insurance...

No? They use a multitude of sources (Facebook for example) and factors such as "Do you buy premium beer" to judge how much of a sucker you are and adjust their price according. There have been cases in the US with rates varying significantly among individuals who live in the same neighborhood with similar size houses and coverages.

Again, the rate they initially offer and any subsequent increases depends on how much of a sucker they think you are.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Granular control over requests is completely lost in Manifest V3. For example, with Manifest V2 we can initiate a request from a content script after we begin listening for it from the background script, pass a single-use token in the Accept header, identify the request from the background script based on the token, remove the token from the Accept header and edit other headers before the request is sent to the serve…

Regarding the static list that Google is so graciously allowing us: When is it read by Chrome? Can we submit new lists whenever we want? Are there new API calls for manipulating the block-list?

Ugh this change really pisses me off, truly Google has fallen so far. Kind of like the promise of the web. :(

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